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plague
03-11-2015, 01:58 PM
For me, Kanta makes more sense as a mid, who can help out in attack, not a straight attacking mid.

So I'm not taking a shot, I'm genuinely interested, in what you did or didn't see in that 40min performance last week that makes you think Kanta won't be good there all the time?

plague
03-11-2015, 02:02 PM
:lulzturtle:

Hahaha, it came up the first time but I manually corrected it.

Prob says a lot about the level of my vocab that my phone is determined to over rule me.

Mark325
03-11-2015, 02:09 PM
So I'm not taking a shot, I'm genuinely interested, in what you did or didn't see in that 40min performance last week that makes you think Kanta won't be good there all the time?

Cause we have Leo, what sense is there in making Kanta play there permanently when he can act as more of a box to box mid. Kanta there permanently forces Leo to the bench, or if you play him wide Enver or carney to the bench and puts Watson on the field. If we didn't have Leo, had a better mid then Watson and Kanta had a few more games at attacking mid to prove he can kill it there I would love to see him play there, but he's spent so long as a defender that I see no reason not to allow him to be a box to box mid that lets him better use some of his attacking help along with using his defensive help. Personal opinion on that one though

Mark325
03-11-2015, 02:12 PM
Ah, gotcha. Kanta will still be a mid though... Watson won't start.

If it's a discussion on bench options... I think Watson probably still pips Cooper. Maybe they both make the bench but I would have thought Jackson (central and left), Cowburn (right, central), Pavicevic up front/wide and then one to cover the midfield. Or are we likely to have two covering midfield so they both get a spot and one of Jackson/Cowburn miss out?

Well see that's the thing, Cowburn and Jackson both play CB or right/left, and rarely are you benching both of those positions. I feel like it makes more sense to have BK, Cowburn, Cam, Cooper and Pav on our bench to in my opinion completely cover us in all areas.

plague
03-11-2015, 02:16 PM
Cause we have Leo, what sense is there in making Kanta play there permanently when he can act as more of a box to box mid. Kanta there permanently forces Leo to the bench, or if you play him wide Enver or carney to the bench and puts Watson on the field. If we didn't have Leo, had a better mid then Watson and Kanta had a few more games at attacking mid to prove he can kill it there I would love to see him play there, but he's spent so long as a defender that I see no reason not to allow him to be a box to box mid that lets him better use some of his attacking help along with using his defensive help. Personal opinion on that one though

Sorry, I was approaching it as Kanta v Cooper.
I assumed we all agree Leo is #1.
Is he back this week? Thought he was still out that why I wondered.

380
03-11-2015, 02:16 PM
The more i watch Coops the more i am convinced he is in that gap between being a star at state league level and just too inconsistent to be at HAL level.

Mark325
03-11-2015, 02:23 PM
Sorry, I was approaching it as Kanta v Cooper.
I assumed we all agree Leo is #1.
Is he back this week? Thought he was still out that why I wondered.

Oh my bad, I thought we were talking full stop making Kanta attacking mid haha
Well I forget who posted it but it said Leo was in doubt for this weeks game, and Kanta will slot in. Again, I'm looking at it from a perspective of I feel it makes more sense to let Cooper do it since he won't be holding the full workload if Kanta is given liberties to push a bit more, may make it easier on him and he has potential to be a star, he just needs game time and a good coach, we have the good coach and can give him game time. If Kanta starts at attacking mid that's fine, he did great last week and Watson won't ruin it. To me it all comes down to who you prefer on the pitch, Watson or Cooper and for me, I prefer Coops

Mark325
03-11-2015, 02:23 PM
The more i watch Coops the more i am convinced he is in that gap between being a star at state league level and just too inconsistent to be at HAL level.


So he's like James Virgili?

plague
03-11-2015, 02:31 PM
To me it all comes down to who you prefer on the pitch, Watson or Cooper and for me, I prefer Coops

Yeah this is the exact way to look at it as a whole.

I thought Kantas pressing starved Mooy of the ball and made Watsons job easier.

Jeterpool
03-11-2015, 02:37 PM
Yeah this is the exact way to look at it as a whole.

I thought Kantas pressing starved Mooy of the ball and made Watsons job easier.

Watson had 95% pass accuracy on the weekend too. It was a far cry from the pervious weeks where he struggled to hit a player wearing the same strip.

I think we may be starting to come with a crossroads with Cooper. He's yet to play 90 minutes for us in 25 appearances, of which he started 13. He's shown glimpses but hasn't ever really provided a match winning moment or even be attributed with an assist.

Oh and a WTF moment - Kanta is only 23 according to the paper!?!

Grimario
03-11-2015, 02:46 PM
Watson had 95% pass accuracy on the weekend too. It was a far cry from the pervious weeks where he struggled to hit a player wearing the same strip.

I think we may be starting to come with a crossroads with Cooper. He's yet to play 90 minutes for us in 25 appearances, of which he started 13. He's shown glimpses but hasn't ever really provided a match winning moment or even be attributed with an assist.

Oh and a WTF moment - Kanta is only 23 according to the paper!?!

He's been here since 2008 and started as a 16yo... so I guess the math works.

Mark325
03-11-2015, 02:53 PM
Watson had 95% pass accuracy on the weekend too. It was a far cry from the pervious weeks where he struggled to hit a player wearing the same strip.

I think we may be starting to come with a crossroads with Cooper. He's yet to play 90 minutes for us in 25 appearances, of which he started 13. He's shown glimpses but hasn't ever really provided a match winning moment or even be attributed with an assist.

Oh and a WTF moment - Kanta is only 23 according to the paper!?!

Well that stats shut me up a good bit haha, I just remember that Sydney game and just thinking he was a shocking player honestly.

True, he does need to show that he's worth investing in, but so did Kanta and he's managed to under Miller, I think Coops can do the same

Too true, blew my mind. Makes you realise how long he's been here for

RAM
03-11-2015, 03:55 PM
Cooper isn't good enough imo

Been given plenty of opportunity but just doesn't cut the mustard

RAM
03-11-2015, 03:56 PM
Kanta was infinitely better pushing forward than Cooper. Thought he was fantastic in the second half.

x2

380
03-11-2015, 04:01 PM
Cooper isn't good enough imo

Been given plenty of opportunity but just doesn't cut the mustard


This.

WolfMan
03-11-2015, 04:50 PM
leonardo > flores

I actually agree with you. Once Leonardo hits his straps - lookout

Premy
03-11-2015, 06:00 PM
Is there any other player in the A-League under 24 with more than 100 caps?
Considering Kanta has missed the best part of 3 years due to injuries that's a quiet incredible achievement.

OmeletteDuFromage
03-11-2015, 07:37 PM
Is there any other player in the A-League under 24 with more than 100 caps?
Considering Kanta has missed the best part of 3 years due to injuries that's a quiet incredible achievement.

Could only find Ibini. Fitzgerald, Anderson and Goodwin all mid 80's

Jeterpool
03-11-2015, 08:04 PM
Is there any other player in the A-League under 24 with more than 100 caps?
Considering Kanta has missed the best part of 3 years due to injuries that's a quiet incredible achievement.

I've asked Andy Howe

Jeterpool
03-11-2015, 08:10 PM
Is there any other player in the A-League under 24 with more than 100 caps?
Considering Kanta has missed the best part of 3 years due to injuries that's a quiet incredible achievement.

Ibini first at 22 years 204 days

Kanta second 23 years 25 days

MFKS
03-11-2015, 08:17 PM
Watson had 95% pass accuracy on the weekend too. It was a far cry from the pervious weeks where he struggled to hit a player wearing the same strip.

I think we may be starting to come with a crossroads with Cooper. He's yet to play 90 minutes for us in 25 appearances, of which he started 13. He's shown glimpses but hasn't ever really provided a match winning moment or even be attributed with an assist.

Oh and a WTF moment - Kanta is only 23 according to the paper!?!

The bloke has just come back from 2 knee reconstructions. Slow down Cha Cha

Not going to see the best from him for a while yet

Anyone remember the goal Ryan Griff scored V Heart where he chipped the keeper with a lob from about 10 yards out??

The ball he received was with the outside of the foot from Mitch Cooper.
That was the Mitch Cooper we would have had for the last 2 years if he wasn't injured.

If you also watch the game closely the criticism of him is harsh. We never had much of the ball in the first half. How the **** is that the responsibility of the No10??

Bloke is just being made the scape goat for us falling 2-0 behind. He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out

WolfMan
03-11-2015, 08:26 PM
If you also watch the game closely the criticism of him is harsh. We never had much of the ball in the first half. How the **** is that the responsibility of the No10??

Bloke is just being made the scape goat for us falling 2-0 behind. He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out

But Mooy is lazy coz he didn't get the ball in the second half.... Time for a trip to the Hall of Mirrors

la bazzle
03-11-2015, 08:26 PM
He stunk up a storm

Premy
03-11-2015, 08:27 PM
Could only find Ibini. Fitzgerald, Anderson and Goodwin all mid 80's


Ibini first at 22 years 204 days

Kanta second 23 years 25 days
As I said earlier Kanta has probably missed the best part of 3 years through injury. Considering his still young I hope the best is yet to come and in 10 years time we're talking about how great of a Club servant his been and stays a one Club man.

Edit: 2 Club man sorry Magic

Jeterpool
03-11-2015, 08:30 PM
The bloke has just come back from 2 knee reconstructions. Slow down Cha Cha

Not going to see the best from him for a while yet

Anyone remember the goal Ryan Griff scored V Heart where he chipped the keeper with a lob from about 10 yards out??

The ball he received was with the outside of the foot from Mitch Cooper.
That was the Mitch Cooper we would have had for the last 2 years if he wasn't injured.

If you also watch the game closely the criticism of him is harsh. We never had much of the ball in the first half. How the **** is that the responsibility of the No10??

Bloke is just being made the scape goat for us falling 2-0 behind. He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out

Don't remember the Ryu goal but happy to be wrong.

Copper bounced back really well last year and was a shining light under the Stubbins cloud. I remember the elation a number of people on here when he extended his contract. I was one of them.

But sunce then, I feel his performances have waned. As for not having much of the ball, we had 49% in the first half. That's more this we had in all 3 matches in total before.

And no where did I blame him for going 2-0 down. He didn't play well this week and got hooked at half time and then we went on to win. I thought he went missing a turned over much of the ball but he isn't my scapegoat. Carney let Mooy go. We watched Mauk run through us.

But I'm getting worried he's going to be another all promise no product.

Jeterpool
03-11-2015, 08:31 PM
As I said earlier Kanta has probably missed the best part of 3 years through injury. Considering his still young I hope the best is yet to come and in 10 years time we're talking about how great of a Club servant his been and stays a one Club man.

Edit: 2 Club man sorry Magic


Kanta youngest to 50 games though

hawk
03-11-2015, 08:49 PM
Cooper isn't good enough imo

Been given plenty of opportunity but just doesn't cut the mustard

Did we score 3 goals after he went off?

tomo
03-11-2015, 09:01 PM
Anyone know what happened to mullen at training? And what injury he may have?

Jeterpool
03-11-2015, 09:08 PM
The bloke has just come back from 2 knee reconstructions. Slow down Cha Cha

Not going to see the best from him for a while yet

Anyone remember the goal Ryan Griff scored V Heart where he chipped the keeper with a lob from about 10 yards out??

The ball he received was with the outside of the foot from Mitch Cooper.
That was the Mitch Cooper we would have had for the last 2 years if he wasn't injured.

If you also watch the game closely the criticism of him is harsh. We never had much of the ball in the first half. How the **** is that the responsibility of the No10??

Bloke is just being made the scape goat for us falling 2-0 behind. He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out

Just looked up the game member. Taggart provided ryu's assist that game. Griffiths and cooper only played two games together and that's the only one Ryan scored in.

GazFish35
03-11-2015, 09:10 PM
Coops only the scapegoat as BK wasn't on the field.


We jets fans love a scapegoat.

MFKS
03-11-2015, 09:46 PM
But Mooy is lazy coz he didn't get the ball in the second half.... Time for a trip to the Hall of Mirrors

Mooy was not running defensively at all.

He aint a no 10 and as a so called marquee player he played like a primadonna and refused to do any defensive work for his side.

Not good enough for the so called star player

plague
03-11-2015, 10:08 PM
But Mooy is lazy coz he didn't get the ball in the second half.... Time for a trip to the Hall of Mirrors

Mooy didn't get the ball because Kanta shut down the distribution.
Which is what Cooper didn't do in the first half.
Which is one of the main reasons Miller made the change.
Which is what Miller told everyone after the game.

Thats not to say thats how they'll do it every week, the fact Miller started Cooper says that the bloke is good enough.

WolfMan
03-11-2015, 10:14 PM
To clarify, I'm not saying Cooper should have shut it down a la Kanta. Just drawing attention to the disparity in judgement.

Essentially, Cooper's 1st half = Mooy's 2nd.

stopper2
03-11-2015, 10:39 PM
Coops only the scapegoat as BK wasn't on the field.


We jets fans love a scapegoat.

Yeah it's pretty ordinary.
Lets cut Cooper some slack FFS sake we are only 4 games into the season, he has started one game where the team overall were a bit flat and some are already writing him off.
I would rather be talking up Kanta how he looks like he has finally found his mojo after injuries and lets face it he has worked with some uninspiring coaches since he burst onto the scene as a 16 year old; GVE, Culina and Stubbins. Someone actually told me once that he heard that when Kanta first started playing under GVE he was instructed to just pass the ball and not to shoot!!!
Anyway all the players they look like they are enjoying their football playing under Miller and JPD and Kanta the way he has started this season may just have his best season to date in his career.

la bazzle
04-11-2015, 09:17 AM
Just looked up the game member. Taggart provided ryu's assist that game. Griffiths and cooper only played two games together and that's the only one Ryan scored in.

Far out lolololololololololololololololol classic member

Bon
04-11-2015, 09:21 AM
Far out lolololololololololololololololol classic member

:lulzturtle:

RAM
04-11-2015, 09:44 AM
The bloke has just come back from 2 knee reconstructions. Slow down Cha Cha

Not going to see the best from him for a while yet

Anyone remember the goal Ryan Griff scored V Heart where he chipped the keeper with a lob from about 10 yards out??

The ball he received was with the outside of the foot from Mitch Cooper.
That was the Mitch Cooper we would have had for the last 2 years if he wasn't injured.

If you also watch the game closely the criticism of him is harsh. We never had much of the ball in the first half. How the **** is that the responsibility of the No10??

Bloke is just being made the scape goat for us falling 2-0 behind. He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out

He contributed to the lack of possession by turning it over everytime he got the ball. The guy just doesn't have the ability to play at this level. One pass doesn't warrant 4-5 year contract.

Jetmaster
04-11-2015, 11:15 AM
Far out lolololololololololololololololol classic member

I do remember the moment the member is talking about - we were running left to right as the TV sees it, just past halfway and Cooper delivered a killer ball to setup a goal.

Not sure of the scorer or opponent but I have a video somewhere I'm sure.

EDIT - it was that 2-0 over Heart, Cooper played a lovely through ball to Taggs, who dinked it over to R.Griff.

la bazzle
04-11-2015, 12:06 PM
That makes it less funny

plague
04-11-2015, 12:49 PM
Kanta the way he has started this season may just have his best season to date in his career.

Yeah this is the point we all miss sometimes having a league that plays such young kids.

Even though Kanta feels like he's a veteran, he's still a few years away from his physical and (hopefully) playing peak.

Wonder if Bayern still have his number?

RAM
04-11-2015, 01:09 PM
Yeah this is the point we all miss sometimes having a league that plays such young kids.

Even though Kanta feels like he's a veteran, he's still a few years away from his physical and (hopefully) playing peak.

Wonder if Bayern still have his number?

It'll be filed under "players to loan to division 3".

I disagree with your first sentence too. HAL teams are more likely to sign 30 something foreign journey-men than Aussie kids to the starting line up, or they continue the merry-go-round with never-has-beens like Isaka Cernak.

plague
04-11-2015, 02:07 PM
I disagree with your first sentence too. HAL teams are more likely to sign 30 something foreign journey-men than Aussie kids to the starting line up, or they continue the merry-go-round with never-has-beens like Isaka Cernak.

Yeah from a league wide point of view it would be interesting to see the proportion of kids getting a run. Def Adelaide and Perth are exactly as you say, but Victory and Sydney seem to have blooded a fair few with success.

Def say the Jets would be the club that has stuck the most in though*



*may or may not be true because I generally only watch the Jets because **** every other team.

MFKS
04-11-2015, 02:08 PM
That makes it less funny

Makes it less funny.

Not my fault you blokes have short memories.



Remember the game quite well at home back end of season in Heskeytmes first season here and Heskey scored after 10 mins

Eli Bablaj showed what a donkey he is by butchering 2-3 golden chances in the first half



Goal to Ryan Griff in the last 10 mins sealed it 2-0 for us.

The finish was sublime from Ryan Griff lobbing the Heart goalie from inside the 18 yard box but if memory serves correct it was closer to the 6 yard box than the 18 yard line


What made the goal was the ball from the young sub Mitch Cooper with the outside of the foot 40 yards out which started the entire move.

BodyNovo
04-11-2015, 03:03 PM
it wasn't 40 yards lol

it was about 25 yards at best and it was straight to feet.

taagz ball was the sexy one

I still think cooper is a good player but just had a bad night

la bazzle
04-11-2015, 03:06 PM
Makes it less funny.

Not my fault you blokes have short memories.


.

Ahhhh you were still wrong pal. So still kind of funny. Just not as funny

stopper2
04-11-2015, 04:41 PM
Yeah this is the point we all miss sometimes having a league that plays such young kids.

Even though Kanta feels like he's a veteran, he's still a few years away from his physical and (hopefully) playing peak.

Wonder if Bayern still have his number?

I remember when Kanta was about 17-18 and a mainstay of the U-20 Socceroos and was going overseas every few months to tournaments and qualifiers, GVE done him no favours by not resting him enough I feel. Quite often he would be back from overseas and within a couple days or so would be rushed back into the line-up. No wonder by the time he was 20 he started having these injury problems.

Grimario
04-11-2015, 04:48 PM
I remember when Kanta was about 17-18 and a mainstay of the U-20 Socceroos and was going overseas every few months to tournaments and qualifiers, GVE done him no favours by not resting him enough I feel. Quite often he would be back from overseas and within a couple days or so would be rushed back into the line-up. No wonder by the time he was 20 he started having these injury problems.

Didn't he break something on U20 duty at the U20 WC or something? Then came home, should have had a spell off but was back and an unfit inclusion into the starting line up?

edit.

Nevermind, realised it was the other way around. He had just come back from a knee reconstruction, hadn't played club football for 6 months and was called up and named captain for the U20 WC in 2011.

parksey
04-11-2015, 07:26 PM
Cooper isn't good enough imo

Been given plenty of opportunity but just doesn't cut the mustard

he was one of our best players at the back end of last season

Mark325
04-11-2015, 07:32 PM
he was one of our best players at the back end of last season

Exactly, it's why I think we can chalk up the City game to a bad game and not indicative of his actual value as a player

plague
04-11-2015, 07:46 PM
Ahhhh you were still wrong pal. So still kind of funny. Just not as funny

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/34/34b9dd70a6349411123b372b64c003d8d2db0a7c4439f7251a 962e29bd3524ad.jpg

true waterboy
04-11-2015, 11:07 PM
Im still a big fan of cooper and im sure he will have alot to offer down the track. I dont believe he is good enough for a starting spot, but does well off the bench.

The biggest problem I see with cooper is with his first touch off a hard pass. too often will he have a large touch exposing the ball to the opposition. when his touch is small, hes able to keep his body between the defender and the ball. and when he does do this he normally sets up something.

Wouldnt take too much to correct this.

tomo
05-11-2015, 12:26 PM
Jets are back on the market. Talks with Thompson have broken down

belchardo
05-11-2015, 12:50 PM
Jets are back on the market. Talks with Thompson have broken down

:sigh:

Beeen
05-11-2015, 03:48 PM
St. Pauli IN

plague
05-11-2015, 04:49 PM
Con

Thomas477
05-11-2015, 05:25 PM
Dunno, this eff effa ayy mob seem to be running things alright

R Ramjet
10-11-2015, 01:20 PM
so the rumours will now start that flores could be the injury replacement for haliti. I like flores but just think his best days are behind him now and he struggles to stay fit

q-money
10-11-2015, 01:23 PM
i look back on that game against WS where he scored that outrageous backheel and rocked one off the crossbar and think what might of been, then i cry

Mark325
10-11-2015, 02:10 PM
Issue is he wants to play in attacking mid, which is already covered and his finishing rate isn't high enough to warrant him being a back-up striker. Still a good player and a good bloke but we should be looking elsewhere or at the very least subbing on the young dudes we have like Brennan or Pav to see how they go

Jeterpool
10-11-2015, 02:39 PM
Flores is a visa player. We've got enough of them

Grimario
10-11-2015, 02:57 PM
Issue is he wants to play in attacking mid, which is already covered and his finishing rate isn't high enough to warrant him being a back-up striker. Still a good player and a good bloke but we should be looking elsewhere or at the very least subbing on the young dudes we have like Brennan or Pav to see how they go

He's better than Cooper for the attacking mid off the bench role... I don't exactly see Leonardo quaking in his boots at the possibility of losing his starting spot to Mitch, that's for sure.

Not that we have a visa spot anyway.

Premy
10-11-2015, 08:17 PM
Flores is a visa player. We've got enough of themI know of a certain Uruguayan who could get an Australian passport.

Retro Jet
10-11-2015, 11:00 PM
I know of a certain Uruguayan who could get an Australian passport.

At 32yo..and if he's in form, I'd have him.

stopper2
11-11-2015, 03:39 PM
I know of a certain Uruguayan who could get an Australian passport.

Who is that?

At the very least I think we should get Flores here for a trial so Miller and JPD can have a good look at him. JPD would no doubt know what he is capable of and knows what he offers as a #10 but I think the main sticking point would be could he provide a decent back-up for Milos as a #9. I think he could, the guy has a decent nose for a goal and is one of those rare players who can conjure something from nothing, as evidenced by that goal against WSW last year and numerous others in his time in the A League.

As far as I'm aware we have 4 visa spots filled, Leaky gee, Milos, Enver and Leonardo so we have one spare.

The Camel
11-11-2015, 04:00 PM
Who is that?

At the very least I think we should get Flores here for a trial so Miller and JPD can have a good look at him. JPD would no doubt know what he is capable of and knows what he offers as a #10 but I think the main sticking point would be could he provide a decent back-up for Milos as a #9. I think he could, the guy has a decent nose for a goal and is one of those rare players who can conjure something from nothing, as evidenced by that goal against WSW last year and numerous others in his time in the A League.

As far as I'm aware we have 4 visa spots filled, Leaky gee, Milos, Enver and Leonardo so we have one spare.

Poljak is a Croat

stopper2
11-11-2015, 05:16 PM
Poljak is a Croat

Thanks Camel, I Knew that, just off the top of my head forgot about him:blush:
Well unfortunately we are wasting our time then even talking about Flores because we have our maximum of 5 visa players already!

Grimario
11-11-2015, 05:18 PM
Who is that?

Richard Porta, at a guess.

Thomas477
11-11-2015, 11:11 PM
If we're looking for a realistic injury replacement, I suggest one Nicky Carle.

leftrightout
12-11-2015, 08:20 AM
If we're looking for a realistic injury replacement, I suggest one Nicky Carle.

Could be an interesting one, i think its probably the best solution. Fan favourite at least!

I love the Flores idea, i only wrote last week that i thought Flores would kill it in this team with all the belief we have now. Unfortunately, even though he is available, it doesn't look like an option.

It is nice to not have it as an option though, its been a long time since we havehad our 5 Visa players all fit and in our best 11!

&1gest
17-11-2015, 12:23 PM
From Twitter -
Craig Kerry ‏@craigkerry77 (https://twitter.com/craigkerry77) 1h (https://twitter.com/craigkerry77/status/666404508721770496)1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/craigkerry77/status/666404508721770496)
Former Olyroo and Adelaide right winger Ryan Kitto trialling with @NewcastleJetsFC (https://twitter.com/NewcastleJetsFC) today @newcastleherald (https://twitter.com/newcastleherald)

anyone know anything about him?.........paging Grimario

plague
17-11-2015, 01:06 PM
Isn't Michu playing like 4th tier Spanish football at the moment?

Sign him up Tinks

The Dunster
17-11-2015, 01:22 PM
If we're looking for a realistic injury replacement, I suggest one Nicky Carle.

THe issue isn't finding a player it's finding a player that doesn't expect to be paid.

The mango box is empty.

RAM
17-11-2015, 01:49 PM
Idealists with their unfunded ideas http://www.footballanarchy.net/forum/images/smilies/picard.gif

leftrightout
17-11-2015, 02:32 PM
Isn't Michu playing like 4th tier Spanish football at the moment?

Sign him up Tinks

Yep, his brother is the manager and wants to help him get fitness back to have another crack at big time.

Jetmaster
17-11-2015, 09:31 PM
Only Griff has offered to play for nothing.

GazFish35
21-11-2015, 01:10 PM
Ryan Kitto joins the Jets

Newcastle Jets are pleased to announce that versatile attacker Ryan Kitto has been contracted by the club as an injury replacement player for Labinot Haliti until the completion of the Hyundai A-League 2015/16 season.

Kitto, 21, trialled with Scott Miller’s men this week and impressed the Newcastle Jets coaching staff with his efforts.

The Australian youth international was a member of the Adelaide United set-up in his home state of South Australia between 2013 and the start of this year, though Kitto was last contracted to National Premier Leagues (NPL) South Australia side West Torrens Birkalla.

With West Torrens Birkalla Kitto scored an impressive 17 goals throughout the 2015 NPL South Australia season, helping the club to a third-placed finish.

Kitto’s displays in the 2015 NPL South Australia saw him rewarded with the Sergio Melta Medal as the competition’s Player of the Year last month.

Jets Head Coach Scott Miller said that positive reports from respected individuals within football plus good trial form from the player himself had equated to the opportunity for Kitto to join the Jets full time.

“Ryan arrived with us highly referenced from senior football figures,” Miller explained. “In the first couple of days he showed commitment, but he’s followed that through with his technical ability.”

“Ryan can play a variety of positions in the front third, which adds to our squad flexibility.”

“We’ve found him to be a very respectful person, and we’re sure will fit into the team culture well,” Miller concluded.

Kitto has been added to the Newcastle Jets preliminary squad for Sunday’s Hyundai A-League 2015/16 round 7 encounter against his former club, Adelaide United, at Coopers Stadium.

“I am very grateful and humbled by the opportunity that I have been given by the Club,” Kitto said.

“I found out that the Club had a bit of interest in me a few weeks ago, and they [Newcastle Jets] were great in allowing me to finish off my University studies before coming over to trial.”

“When I left Adelaide United and joined West Torrens Birkalla it was clear that my football career could go one of two ways – I could chuck the towel in and say ‘that’s it’, or knuckle down.”

“Thankfully West Torrens Birkalla provided me with an environment where I could play in my preferred way and I was successful there, and that has helped lead to this opportunity,” he said.

Kitto added that he’s been made to feel welcome at the Jets, though should he see game time against his old employers Adelaide on Sunday he won’t be treating the game any differently than normal.

“The environment has been fantastic and I sensed straight away that the Jets is a Club on the up both on and off the field,” Kitto said.

“The boys have provided great support for me this week.”

“I’d be excited to get an opportunity this weekend [against Adelaide] but it doesn’t matter who we’re playing, I’ll just take it as any other game and seek to do my best for Newcastle Jets,” he concluded.

What will kitto's nickname be?

WolfMan
21-11-2015, 03:27 PM
K-Dog?

boz-monaut
21-11-2015, 03:37 PM
kitten

The Postman
21-11-2015, 03:47 PM
1. Mark Birighitti - 15/16
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
3. Jason Hoffman - 15/16
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 15/16
6. Cameron Watson - 15/16
7. Enver Alivodic - 15/16
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
9. Miloš Trifunović - 15/16
10. Leonardo - 15/16
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
13. Lee Ki-Je - 16/17
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15. Themba Muata - Marlow 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
18. Josh Baressi - 15/16
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
22. Lachlan Jackson - 15/16
23. David Carney - 15/16
24. Nick Cowburn - (YTH)
25. Brandon Lundy - 15/16 (TRN)
27. Braedyn Crowley - (YTH)
28. Ryan Kitto - (IR)
29. Andrew Pawiak - (YTH)
40. Blake Tuxford - (YTH)

Thomas477
21-11-2015, 04:06 PM
Sign Jackson to a 2 year contract extension asap.

plague
21-11-2015, 04:13 PM
What will kitto's nickname be?

http://www.imisstheoldschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/knight_rider.jpg

hawk
21-11-2015, 05:21 PM
Only Griff has offered to play for nothing.

be praised

lquiquer
21-11-2015, 05:42 PM
What will kitto's nickname be?

Fong

hawk
21-11-2015, 11:16 PM
shitto before long

Nou Camp
25-11-2015, 05:44 PM
http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/best-players-outside-a-league-nsw-special-1kt6509istjmt14iepsrkrm5p0

Supposedly best players outside the a league in Aus (nsw edition)

leftrightout
02-12-2015, 08:38 AM
Apparently Kwame Yeboah is looking for a loan move back to the A-league. Not that we would have any chance!

We are more likely to end up with Reinaldo who is in Australia looking for another A-league gig. He is an australia citizen now so would fit in. I thought he was average and a bit older back when he was at brisbane, surely he wouldn't be good enough, sounds like a perfect fit!

Jeterpool
09-12-2015, 12:23 PM
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3548033/jets-in-the-dark-over-possible-david-carney-transfer-poll/?cs=305


Jets in the dark over possible David Carney transfer

By James Gardiner
Dec. 9, 2015, 10:59 a.m

A possible move to a cashed up Qatari club for David Carney is news to the Newcastle Jets.

An unnamed club is reportedly set to make an offer for the in-form winger during the January transfer window.

However, Jets chief executive David Eland told the Newcastle Herald on Wednesday morning that there had not been an approach - formal or informal - to the club about any player.

"We have not seen or heard anything regarding David Carney or any player," Eland said.

"He is a contract player at the Newcastle Jets until the end of the season. Nothing has changed."

Carney is one of 12 Jets players off contract.

In his third season in Newcastle, the silky-skilled attacker has been reborn under new coach Scott Miller.

A veteran of 48 Socceroo games, the left-sided winger has scored two goals, provided three assists and and created more chances than any player.

The Qatari club is reported to be willing to pay a transfer fee to secure Carney’s release next month.

The Jets have slipped out of the top six and Miller is likely to will be reluctant to lose his most creative player in the middle of the season.

But the 32-year-old is only contracted until the end of the campaign and could leave at that point for nothing.

A move to the Middle East would add another leg to Carney’s football journey, which has seen him play in England, Holland, Spain, Uzbekistan and the US.

The Herald is seeking comment from Carney's manager Paddy Dominguez.

MFKS
09-12-2015, 01:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU

belchardo
09-12-2015, 01:26 PM
oh god, please let it be true (and happen).

Jeterpool
09-12-2015, 02:16 PM
From a business sense if we can get money from a club for a bloke who is at 32 and with 6 months left on his contract, it is probably a good thing.

belchardo
09-12-2015, 02:28 PM
From a business sense if we can get money from a club for a bloke who is at 32 and with 6 months left on his contract, it is probably a good thing.

you forgot the bit about him taking way more salary cap than he deserves.

GazFish35
09-12-2015, 03:00 PM
if I was Eland, id be ringing every cashed up Middle Eastern Club and offering him out.

WolfMan
09-12-2015, 03:10 PM
you forgot the bit about him taking way more salary cap than he deserves.

Qft

borat
09-12-2015, 03:27 PM
Going to be difficult to find an Aussie replacement though

lquiquer
09-12-2015, 03:29 PM
if I was Eland, id be ringing every cashed up Middle Eastern Club and offering him out.

If I was Eland I would invite Qatar Investment Authority to buy us

MFKS
09-12-2015, 03:35 PM
if I was Eland, id be ringing every cashed up Middle Eastern Club and offering him out.

It does say a lot about our club and the basket case we are that we are all happy to see the back end of arguably our best player and are offering the club encouragement to find a way to let him go

Only in Newy ***

The Dunster
09-12-2015, 03:54 PM
From a business sense if we can get money from a club for a bloke who is at 32 and with 6 months left on his contract, it is probably a good thing.

Come on. Any transfer fee paid for Carney will go directly to Sydney FC.

hawk
09-12-2015, 04:28 PM
if I was Eland, id be ringing every cashed up Middle Eastern Club and offering him out.

hmmm, thats a queer thought :wink:...hes one of our only attackers and we will only buy some useless prick to replace him.

how bout we offer 60% of our dud players to the cheating arabs and try to buy a team to challenge for a championship. oh wait., we are fking spastic jets

ForeverRed
09-12-2015, 04:46 PM
lets loose our best player (going on recent performances only) and be happy about it, this is crap, ffa will only recoup what they put into the jets from the sale of Carney, if anyone believes the jets will get rich from this then I have no idea

borat
11-12-2015, 11:32 AM
Carney isn't our best player. He had an outstanding first 2 games of the year but has tailed off since being switched to the right side.

Should we sell Carney is all dependant on what the money will be used for. It's going to be almost impossible to replace him with a similar quality Australian player. If the money were to be used on a foreign guest player, like Perth is doing with Keogh, then that would be worth persuing. But we would still need to sign another squad player as well to keep minimum numbers up. We most definitely should not be resigning him on the same money next season.

I am inclined to sell Carney anyway because of the type of person he is. This season and last all this guy plays for is to jump to the next contract. We pay Carbey 230k a year to be a stepping stone to a guy whose career was over before the Jets threw him a lifeline. This guy would play for ISIS if they threw him enough $$$$.

borat
11-12-2015, 11:44 AM
Actually there is one Aust player who could easily replace Carney and is being linked with a return to the A-League.

Sell Carneyand bring back Tags. Would be a dream come true

RAM
11-12-2015, 12:37 PM
From a business sense if we can get money from a club for a bloke who is at 32 and with 6 months left on his contract, it is probably a good thing.

x2

Thomas477
11-12-2015, 05:09 PM
Bring back the Son of Griff!

hawk
11-12-2015, 05:50 PM
Actually there is one Aust player who could easily replace Carney and is being linked with a return to the A-League.

Sell Carneyand bring back Tags. Would be a dream come true

That might work.

Anyone else know that he wouldnt hack it OS

Jeterpool
14-12-2015, 01:02 PM
So assuming we lose Ki-Je and even perhaps Carney...what are our options? I don't think the left back for the youth team is quite at the level yet for the A-League, given the 1 performance I've seen, but open to discuss.

Does Jackson go out there? Do we play Cowburn there? Are there any left backs not getting a look in elsewhere who might be up for a move?

Tommyjet
14-12-2015, 01:07 PM
So assuming we lose Ki-Je and even perhaps Carney...what are our options? I don't think the left back for the youth team is quite at the level yet for the A-League, given the 1 performance I've seen, but open to discuss.

Does Jackson go out there? Do we play Cowburn there? Are there any left backs not getting a look in elsewhere who might be up for a move?
Dylan murnane, Scott Galloway

belchardo
14-12-2015, 01:20 PM
So assuming we lose Ki-Je and even perhaps Carney...what are our options? I don't think the left back for the youth team is quite at the level yet for the A-League, given the 1 performance I've seen, but open to discuss.

Does Jackson go out there? Do we play Cowburn there? Are there any left backs not getting a look in elsewhere who might be up for a move?

didn't Jackson play wide one game this year? seem to recall he did alright, but I don't think he's a long term prospect in that position.

Grimario
14-12-2015, 01:28 PM
didn't Jackson play wide one game this year? seem to recall he did alright, but I don't think he's a long term prospect in that position.

HE played against Victory, kept Barbarouses fairly quiet.

Jeterpool
14-12-2015, 02:02 PM
didn't Jackson play wide one game this year? seem to recall he did alright, but I don't think he's a long term prospect in that position.


HE played against Victory, kept Barbarouses fairly quiet.

Grimario is right, but given Mullen's injury do we move Jackson out there and push Kanta back again? The result of that is Watson returning to the lineup.

Mark325
14-12-2015, 02:15 PM
didn't Jackson play wide one game this year? seem to recall he did alright, but I don't think he's a long term prospect in that position.


HE played against Victory, kept Barbarouses fairly quiet.


Grimario is right, but given Mullen's injury do we move Jackson out there and push Kanta back again? The result of that is Watson returning to the lineup.

It was a very divisive performance on the left wasn't it? Some thought he did well and others felt he wasn't up to snuff. Also in recent weeks people seem to be bagging him out a bit more as not being the best at centre back

Also, can't we use Cowburn in that situation over Watson? Or even see how Cowburn fairs as CB and use Kanta in the mids and just forget Watson exists. At this point I'd rather see us use someone like Pawiak who made the bench a few times a couple rounds ago who has some potential then use Watson who is proven to be the worst

380
14-12-2015, 03:01 PM
So assuming we lose Ki-Je and even perhaps Carney...what are our options? I don't think the left back for the youth team is quite at the level yet for the A-League, given the 1 performance I've seen, but open to discuss.

Does Jackson go out there? Do we play Cowburn there? Are there any left backs not getting a look in elsewhere who might be up for a move?


Yep bloke came on as a sub for the human forehead yesterday, Ben Garuccio.

We could offer him more game time albeit in a shite team.

Jeterpool
14-12-2015, 03:07 PM
Yep bloke came on as a sub for the human forehead yesterday, Ben Garuccio.

We could offer him more game time albeit in a shite team.

OK. If I get the time to watch the game back before the podcast on Wednesday I'll pay him some close attention. At least it's a name.

borat
14-12-2015, 03:18 PM
I think we are desperately lacking another goal scoring threat over a replacement LB. If we can't secure an Aust player like Taggs to replace Carney then I would be using the foreign spot to draft in a striker/winger.

Cowburn to me deserves a starting role at LB or DM. Might need to poach from another club.

380
14-12-2015, 06:12 PM
Get some decent coin from Carney and Leaky G string and make a play for Rojas.

lquiquer
14-12-2015, 07:06 PM
Get some decent coin from Carney and Leaky G string and make a play for Rojas.

He is doing ok in Swiss country....prob happy to stay on loan there....

The Camel
15-12-2015, 08:09 AM
I think we are desperately lacking another goal scoring threat over a replacement LB. If we can't secure an Aust player like Taggs to replace Carney then I would be using the foreign spot to draft in a striker/winger.

Cowburn to me deserves a starting role at LB or DM. Might need to poach from another club.

Agree with trying to poach some young players wanting first team football. Garrucio from City would be one for the defence but would be happy for Cowburn to be given a full contract. Someone like Clut who isn't getting many minutes at the Roar is who I would be chasing hard to come into the attacking third. Mahazi at the Victory looks a great young player who may get relegated to the bench when Valeri and co are all back fully fit.

Wilso8948
15-12-2015, 09:20 AM
Agree with trying to poach some young players wanting first team football. Garrucio from City would be one for the defence but would be happy for Cowburn to be given a full contract. Someone like Clut who isn't getting many minutes at the Roar is who I would be chasing hard to come into the attacking third. Mahazi at the Victory looks a great young player who may get relegated to the bench when Valeri and co are all back fully fit.

Looks like Mahazi will be getting a fair bit of game time with the mystery cloud surrounding Valeri's unknown illness.

Mark325
15-12-2015, 10:41 AM
What's Rukavytsa up to recently? If we lose Carney could grab him

Grimario
15-12-2015, 10:44 AM
Playing awesomely in Israel with his smoking hot Israeli model GF.

No chance he will come back here.

belchardo
15-12-2015, 11:58 AM
Playing awesomely in Israel with his smoking hot Israeli model GF.

No chance he will come back here.

you know the deal.

RAM
15-12-2015, 01:18 PM
Danny Invinsible.

That shit Uruguayan-Aussie striker.

Danny Allsop's corpse.

These are the calibre of strikers that we're capable of signing atm.

lquiquer
15-12-2015, 07:48 PM
Bye bye Leaky

Grimario
15-12-2015, 07:48 PM
http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-lee-ki-je-to-undertake-ulsan-medical/amf2vzor1f951qkd2mnt8uzsg

What lquieuer said.

lquiquer
15-12-2015, 07:50 PM
http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-lee-ki-je-to-undertake-ulsan-medical/amf2vzor1f951qkd2mnt8uzsg
:roflz:
What lquieuer said.

Who the F*** is lquieuer???...:roflz:

Grimario
15-12-2015, 08:00 PM
Who the F*** is lquieuer???...:roflz:

Some bloke on a foz, far far away.

lquiquer
15-12-2015, 08:03 PM
Just to please the Member with 350K in ze pocket FFA prob will sign future ballon d'or Sam Gallaway to replace Leaky....:lulzturtle:

hawk
15-12-2015, 08:08 PM
Just to please the Member with 350K in ze pocket FFA prob will sign future ballon d'or Sam Gallaway to replace Leaky....:lulzturtle:
:lulzturtle:
Puddle is more effective :(

Jetmaster
16-12-2015, 07:37 AM
Heskey just scored his first goal since Boxing Day...

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/480/amz/vivo/live/images/2015/12/15/aae66c51-b437-4bd2-b3e9-276360a584a5.jpg

Get him over here!

MFKS
16-12-2015, 07:47 AM
Just to please the Member with 350K in ze pocket FFA prob will sign future ballon d'or Sam Gallaway to replace Leaky....:lulzturtle:

Galloway still much better than Watson and Hoffman.

Premy
16-12-2015, 09:35 AM
So do we look for an Aussie at LB spot and save the visa for a decent Striker?

MFKS
16-12-2015, 09:42 AM
So do we look for an Aussie at LB spot and save the visa for a decent Striker?

Midfield is whats killing us.

Milos may well be a lazy **** but the service he gets is shit. No wonder he is losing interest

We need to control the midfield more

Take pressure of Birraz and Back 4 as well as get more happening in attack

Money needs to be spent on someone in CM

Jeterpool
16-12-2015, 09:45 AM
The family moved to Newcastle in July, but the Herald understands a lack of a support network was a factor in his return to Korea.

This last line in the Herald article is what has concerned me the most. I wonder whether there is any truth to it? Because if there is, it just demonstrates how lacking in resources our club really is.

plague
16-12-2015, 09:54 AM
Dear Santa:
Sign Griff you useless fat ****.

Ta,
Plague.

sammydog
16-12-2015, 09:56 AM
Midfield is whats killing us.

Milos may well be a lazy **** but the service he gets is shit. No wonder he is losing interest

We need to control the midfield more

Take pressure of Birraz and Back 4 as well as get more happening in attack

Money needs to be spent on someone in CM

This is exactly the issue.

Generally our defence is OK, but if you can't hold it in the mids and keep putting the defence under pressure, eventually its going to crack.

Who knows how good Milos could be, with the service he gets he may as well not be there.

The thing is, not only are the mids not controlling it, they are giving us nothing moving forward. I don't see any depth in these positions either. I'd much rather see any money spent, being spent on bolstering the mids.

We aren't going to see any money spent though.


This last line in the Herald article is what has concerned me the most. I wonder whether there is any truth to it? Because if there is, it just demonstrates how lacking in resources our club really is.

It not like the club doesn't have a history of terrible support for OS players.

Jeterpool
16-12-2015, 10:04 AM
It not like the club doesn't have a history of terrible support for OS players.

:whistling:

So true.

I'll also add to your point, it also doesn't help that we have zero speed up front. The threat of being able to knock it over the top isn't there which allows the opposition line to push up high. This closes the space in which the game is played in the midfield and creates additional pressure in the centre of the park.

That's how I see it anyway.

RAM
16-12-2015, 10:10 AM
Who knows how good Milos could be, with the service he gets he may as well not be there.


lol how many sitters has he missed this season?

plague
16-12-2015, 10:59 AM
Generally our defence is OK,


Wot?

The coward coach dedicates 7/11 of his players who's only job is to stop the other team scoring and the only redeeming feature is the stellar form of the 'keeper.

Team performance is terrible.
Coach is a joke.

Jeterpool
16-12-2015, 11:16 AM
Wot?

The coward coach dedicates 7/11 of his players who's only job is to stop the other team scoring and the only redeeming feature is the stellar form of the 'keeper.

Team performance is terrible.
Coach is a joke.

Plague is right. This is a comparison of the opposition's data for the first 10 rounds of this season and last.

2010/11 - 149 shots, 57 on target, 21 goals conceded. Our keeper had made 30 saves.

2011/12 - 150 shots, 54 on target, 12 goals conceded. Our keeper had made 41 saves.

It's simply the outstanding form of Birighitti, primarily, and Kennedy (he has kept a clean sheet this year people!) that has created the illusion that our defence is tighter than last year.

I think we are better ORGANISED but because we allow teams to run at us and have the space we are still allowing the same around of shots.

These shots might be coming from further out, but they're still on target, missing or blocked.

plague
16-12-2015, 11:41 AM
Plague is right.

Jeterpool is right.

weston
16-12-2015, 12:04 PM
In my opinion with Boogard our defence is a lot better. But I hate relying on one player. (Or two, boogs and birraz).

I really think Milos has lost interest. At the start of the season I thought he looked good, energetic and all that. The only thing I hated was the fact he tried to make the simplest finish look stylish which ended up ****ing things. Now though, couldn't even be arsed getting onside.

The honeymoon for the new coach is over. It looks like this season is turning out like last season. I personally think we need quicker wide players. Replace Carney and Enver with some young blokes with speed. Of course they have to be able to kick a ball and all that not just run but I really think we need quicker players out there.

Jetmaster
16-12-2015, 12:52 PM
Discuss...


RYAN Griffiths said he would have returned to the Newcastle Jets for “nearly nothing” but was never approached by the A-League club.

The 34-year-old winger made his debut at the Jack Newton Celebrity Classic on Tuesday at the Crowne Plaza Hunter Valley, alongside brother and former Jets star Joel.

Griffiths will join Hong Kong Premier League club South China AA in the January transfer window, from Malaysia’s Sarawak, but was candid about where his preference lay.

“I wanted to come back and play for the Jets if there was an opportunity, and there was, but I didn’t get offered anything,” Griffiths said. “That was a little disappointing. It would have been nice even if they couldn’t fit me in the budget, if they said, ‘We’re thinking of you.’”

That opportunity was the season-ending knee injury to striker Labinot Haliti in round two against Sydney FC. The Jets, who already have three 30-plus players in their forward line, eventually signed 21-year-old attacking midfielder Ryan Kitto as an injury-waiver replacement.

Griffiths played the last of his 56 A-League games for the Jets in 2013 before he joined China’s Beijing Baxy.

The following year he spent an unhappy four-game stint at Adelaide United before moving to Malaysia.

He said the Adelaide experience had taught him he was passionate only about the Jets.

“I got offers from other clubs, but I don’t want to play for them,” he said.

“It’s Newcastle or nothing in the A-League. I’d rather be overseas.”

Griffiths has never met first-year Jets coach Scott Miller but is optimistic about the direction of the club.

“Things are starting to get better, and I hope they get it right,” he said. “I’m a supporter and watch games online. I want them to be successful. I know how big they can be in the Hunter.”

Jeterpool
16-12-2015, 12:54 PM
Discuss...

2nd highest scorer for the club. Knows where the back of the net is. Is related to Joel. Should have signed him.

belchardo
16-12-2015, 01:15 PM
walked out on the club, is 34, "next to nothing" is probably still going to be in excess of $100K, is probably getting slower every week.

if he's so keen to play, why didn't he approach the jets?

BodyNovo
16-12-2015, 01:26 PM
The way I see it, no one in the football department was here when he was around.

I would have taken him, J griff at 34 last year still worked his ass off in games. All 3 of them have always been in peak condition fitness wise.



walked out on the club, is 34, "next to nothing" is probably still going to be in excess of $100K, is probably getting slower every week.

if he's so keen to play, why didn't he approach the jets?

on my recollection the club made him go so they could re-sign Goodwin.

plague
16-12-2015, 01:49 PM
Next to nothing is still massively overpaying him.

RAM
16-12-2015, 02:17 PM
walked out on the club, is 34, "next to nothing" is probably still going to be in excess of $100K, is probably getting slower every week.

if he's so keen to play, why didn't he approach the jets?

this - we need some speed

MFKS
16-12-2015, 04:51 PM
Apparently whilst listening to the radio whilst driving home our coach was pontificating about signing someone in central midfield or attacker with the money freed up by Leaky G going

Reckons we can get by for now with Jackson and Cowburn at LB

I am pleased to hear he seems to have a clue here

Tommyjet
16-12-2015, 04:55 PM
Apparently whilst listening to the radio whilst driving home our coach was pontificating about signing someone in central midfield or attacker with the money freed up by Leaky G going

Reckons we can get by for now with Jackson and Cowburn at LB

I am pleased to hear he seems to have a clue here
Good news, let's hope he has better success finding a decent import than he did with Leonardo and milos.
If we lose carney too I think moving Leonardo to the wing and finding another attacking mid would be the way to go.

Grimario
16-12-2015, 05:01 PM
Good news, let's hope he has better success finding a decent import than he did with Leonardo and milos.
If we lose carney too I think moving Leonardo to the wing and finding another attacking mid would be the way to go.

Or give Lundy an extended run so we can make sure he isn't just another Virgili that kills it at youth.

WolfMan
16-12-2015, 05:45 PM
Good news, let's hope he has better success finding a decent import than he did with Leonardo and milos.
If we lose carney too I think moving Leonardo to the wing and finding another attacking mid would be the way to go.

Fitness questions aside, do you really think Leonardo is rubbish?

I notice a massive difference in skill and general effectiveness of the team, especially in attack, whenever he is on the pitch. But that's just my opinion

furns
16-12-2015, 05:53 PM
Vandenberg on twitter reckons Carney is gawn

joel31
16-12-2015, 05:55 PM
Fitness questions aside, do you really think Leonardo is rubbish?

I notice a massive difference in skill and general effectiveness of the team, especially in attack, whenever he is on the pitch. But that's just my opinion
I agree

MFKS
16-12-2015, 06:24 PM
Fitness questions aside, do you really think Leonardo is rubbish?

I notice a massive difference in skill and general effectiveness of the team, especially in attack, whenever he is on the pitch. But that's just my opinion

I will lay my cards on the table. The bloke is rubbish

Party tricks are useless if there is no end product

I see no end product at all from him


Anyone can go out and try some Maradona move.
Not much good if you pull it off 50 metres from goal and then your pass is over hit or cut out like it constantly is with this bloke

10 games in has he had a serious chance on goal???

Not that I recall

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 06:54 PM
10 games in has he had a serious chance on goal???
Not that I recall

Don't recall an assist either.......another overseas failure

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 06:56 PM
Vandenberg on twitter reckons Carney is gawn

we going to be rich soon at that rate....

Beeen
16-12-2015, 07:02 PM
Nah Carney's staying. Loves the lake.

Won't be able to pull the bong out on his boat over there

MFKS
16-12-2015, 07:04 PM
we going to be rich soon at that rate....

As if the FFA ain't gonna pocket it to subsidise their costs running this cluster****??

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 07:10 PM
As if the FFA ain't gonna pocket it to subsidise their costs running this cluster****??

I wasn't really serious you know....:rof:

Tommyjet
16-12-2015, 07:21 PM
I will lay my cards on the table. The bloke is rubbish

Party tricks are useless if there is no end product

I see no end product at all from him


Anyone can go out and try some Maradona move.
Not much good if you pull it off 50 metres from goal and then your pass is over hit or cut out like it constantly is with this bloke

10 games in has he had a serious chance on goal???

Not that I recall

Exactly what I see. Also I don't think he is a no.10 at all. Put him on a flank once a new no. 10 is signed and let him run at players and see if he improves

WolfMan
16-12-2015, 07:25 PM
RE: lack of end product/assists - its hard to provide when we don't shoot. League lowest shots of 79, Nearest rival for that title sits on 92. trailing the leaders of that category (City) by almost 70 (145)

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 07:27 PM
Looks like Rob Cornthwaite not staying in Malaysia.....is he any good?....also shame right back not left back I guess

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 08:23 PM
Some of these Mexican and African players who just play a game in Japan would be very good acquisition for us.... Just saying

Tommyjet
16-12-2015, 08:28 PM
Looks like Rob Cornthwaite not staying in Malaysia.....is he any good?....also shame right back not left back I guess

Tall centre back

The Dunster
16-12-2015, 08:49 PM
How the **** is Poljak flying under the radar from the fans giving him some stick on the foz? He's been no better than Watson from what I have seen and looks a tad on the slow side as well.

Oh and a big hell no to Cornflake becoming a Jet.

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 08:55 PM
How the **** is Poljak flying under the radar from the fans giving him some stick on the foz? He's been no better than Watson from what I have seen and looks a tad on the slow side as well.

My take on it, about Poljak is : if not for him we would have conceded as many goals as last year (after 10 rounds), would not have scored as many as we did (this year) and prob would be tied last with Gypos ..???.. Interesting how we all got different opinions about each individual players .....

The Dunster
16-12-2015, 10:13 PM
My take on it, about Poljak is : if not for him we would have conceded as many goals as last year (after 10 rounds), would not have scored as many as we did (this year) and prob would be tied last with Gypos ..???.. Interesting how we all got different opinions about each individual players .....

WSW didn't want him. Was there a reason ? I don't know.

lquiquer
16-12-2015, 10:21 PM
WSW didn't want him. Was there a reason ? I don't know.

We kind of didn't want Elrich, topor.... And the rest is history.... ??!!

The Dunster
17-12-2015, 07:25 AM
We kind of didn't want Elrich, topor.... And the rest is history.... ??!!

You make a very good point.

Topor was on a huge contract well beyond what he would have been demanding elsewhere and Elrich's form was probably not in line with what he was being paid either.

The same might be true for Poljak at WSW. They probably found better value elsewhere.

Alternatively, when coaches are not getting results they usually point the finger at the players rather than their own inadequacies. As such it could be argued that Topor and Elrich were shafted by a coach looking to shift the blame for the teams poor performances and Popovic given his teams poor performances may have done exactly the same.

My opinion is that while Poljak is technically very sound he doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to goals - and midfielders need to score goals or at least be able to thread a quality pass to a striker.

Frodo
17-12-2015, 07:26 AM
I bet we are just making room for Ronaldinho to sign!

Grimario
17-12-2015, 07:33 AM
Biraz off to Bournemouth or Newcastle according to some article I can't be bothered linking.

Frodo
17-12-2015, 07:51 AM
Biraz off to Bournemouth or Newcastle according to some article I can't be bothered linking.

Newcastle have an injury crisis with keepers this year but i've got no idea about Bournemouth's backup keepers.

https://www.clubcall.com/newcastle-united/toon-target-aussie-keeper-1792435.html

GazFish35
17-12-2015, 08:40 AM
Biraz off to Bournemouth or Newcastle according to some article I can't be bothered linking.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/30381442/epl-clubs-keep-tabs-on-birighitti/

this one....

good luck to him, he'll develop into a great keeper if he can settle in at a club.

if he can't though, im not keen on having him back, we need some consistency

Tommyjet
17-12-2015, 08:44 AM
You make a very good point.

Topor was on a huge contract well beyond what he would have been demanding elsewhere and Elrich's form was probably not in line with what he was being paid either.

The same might be true for Poljak at WSW. They probably found better value elsewhere.

Alternatively, when coaches are not getting results they usually point the finger at the players rather than their own inadequacies. As such it could be argued that Topor and Elrich were shafted by a coach looking to shift the blame for the teams poor performances and Popovic given his teams poor performances may have done exactly the same.

My opinion is that while Poljak is technically very sound he doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to goals - and midfielders need to score goals or at least be able to thread a quality pass to a striker.

I'm satisfied with poljak this season, especially compared to what we had in the middle last season. I think the issue is not with poljak but with who we have to play next to poljak and also tactics. Poljak is capable of getting forward and shooting or providing a pass but it's pretty damn obvious that he and Watson are asked not to venture too far forward. Watson is a poorer version of poljak. If we continue to play this formation of 2 'no6's' in front of the back 4 you won't get a goal threat from whoever you play there unless we find someone with remarkable speed and engines.

MFKS
17-12-2015, 09:59 AM
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/30381442/epl-clubs-keep-tabs-on-birighitti/

this one....

good luck to him, he'll develop into a great keeper if he can settle in at a club.

if he can't though, im not keen on having him back, we need some consistency

As if he is leaving Jets for an EPL club

FFS

It ain't April 1st

Take that with a pinch of salt

He may well be off back to Europe again soon but he ain't going to an EPL club particularly with his much vaunted ability at flapping at crosses as it is at this time FFS

RAM
17-12-2015, 10:02 AM
You make a very good point.

Topor was on a huge contract well beyond what he would have been demanding elsewhere and Elrich's form was probably not in line with what he was being paid either.

The same might be true for Poljak at WSW. They probably found better value elsewhere.

Alternatively, when coaches are not getting results they usually point the finger at the players rather than their own inadequacies. As such it could be argued that Topor and Elrich were shafted by a coach looking to shift the blame for the teams poor performances and Popovic given his teams poor performances may have done exactly the same.

My opinion is that while Poljak is technically very sound he doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to goals - and midfielders need to score goals or at least be able to thread a quality pass to a striker.

he's a 6....

why the **** is it his job to score/create goals?

his job is to cover the back 4 and keep it simple when we win it

ffs

RAM
17-12-2015, 10:02 AM
lol Birra to EPL

Jeterpool
17-12-2015, 10:21 AM
Vandenberg on twitter reckons Carney is gawn

Does he have a track record of getting things like this right?

The Dunster
17-12-2015, 01:01 PM
he's a 6....

why the **** is it his job to score/create goals?

his job is to cover the back 4 and keep it simple when we win it

ffs

It is as much his job to score or create goals as it is for the play maker and the striker to defend.

Otherwise you end up being predictable and very easy to shutdown.

This is the Jets in a nutshell.

furns
17-12-2015, 01:27 PM
Does he have a track record of getting things like this right?
No idea - but he doesnt have a podcast ;)

Jeterpool
17-12-2015, 03:28 PM
No idea - but he doesnt have a podcast ;)

:rof:

MFKS
17-12-2015, 03:47 PM
It is as much his job to score or create goals as it is for the play maker and the striker to defend.

Otherwise you end up being predictable and very easy to shutdown.

This is the Jets in a nutshell.

It is actually his job to distribute the ball to the wingers strikers no 10 over lapping full backs quickly and effectively. So they are in space and given good quality ball to showcase their skills

Reality is he fails to do so well and either fails to pass quickly enough or doesn't hit the target perfectly and disrupts the attack by playing it a yard or two away from where it should be going

Playing this passing shit we have ever since GVE sucked the FFA mango means we have to have very very good 6-8 at our club
Successive managers continue to fail in addressing this

RAM
17-12-2015, 05:05 PM
It is as much his job to score or create goals as it is for the play maker and the striker to defend.

Otherwise you end up being predictable and very easy to shutdown.

This is the Jets in a nutshell.

I disagree.

parksey
17-12-2015, 06:48 PM
How the **** is Poljak flying under the radar from the fans giving him some stick on the foz? He's been no better than Watson from what I have seen and looks a tad on the slow side as well.

yeah agreed

joel31
19-12-2015, 02:54 PM
Sam Gallagher was at the game last night. I reckon hes going to be signed to replace Lee

Wilso8948
19-12-2015, 08:28 PM
Would have ties with JP wouldn't he

380
19-12-2015, 09:40 PM
Sam Gallagher was at the game last night. I reckon hes going to be signed to replace Lee

Lets hope not.

Wilso8948
19-12-2015, 10:04 PM
Bring back zads. Least he'll shoot. Even if it does end up on the go kart track

Mark325
20-12-2015, 03:14 PM
Bring back zads. Least he'll shoot. Even if it does end up on the go kart track

It's a shame we lost him as a result of the muppet considering he had a year left on his contract.

Signing Zads or a player like Zads would be the type of player this team needs.

leftrightout
21-12-2015, 07:06 AM
It's a shame we lost him as a result of the muppet considering he had a year left on his contract.

Signing Zads or a player like Zads would be the type of player this team needs.

Zads is exactly the type of player we have a history of signing... one thats been injured all year!

belchardo
21-12-2015, 07:20 AM
If zads is the answer we might as well quit now.

Mark325
21-12-2015, 01:30 PM
If zads is the answer we might as well quit now.

Obviously he's not the one answer to all our problems, but I think signing someone like Zads, the box to box type midfielders who sprint their hearts out, as well as someone like Zads who puts in 100% and isn't afraid to take a shot are guys we need to sign.

RAM
21-12-2015, 02:08 PM
Obviously he's not the one answer to all our problems, but I think signing someone like Zads, the box to box type midfielders who sprint their hearts out, as well as someone like Zads who puts in 100% and isn't afraid to take a shot are guys we need to sign.

x2

no silver bullet, but at least strengthens the team and adds competition to the midfield.

At the moment we have Kanta & Poljak + the occasionally fit Leonardo. Rest are shit.

The Dunster
21-12-2015, 04:45 PM
Zads is only 29 and and doesn't appear to have career threatening knee problems. No chance the Jets would even consider him.

redwah
21-12-2015, 06:00 PM
Someone to do the running for the front 4 is what we need.....some of the laziest footballers I've ever seen.

The Dunster
22-12-2015, 11:56 AM
Someone to do the running for the front 4 is what we need.....some of the laziest footballers I've ever seen.

http://i.imgur.com/ACvkwyO.jpg

This looks like a formation that would suit or front four.

Mark325
22-12-2015, 01:18 PM
http://m.goal.com/s/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2015/12/22/18599252/jets-happy-to-wait-on-taggart?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com. au%2F

Been in contact with Taggart apparently

Other thing of note is Leonardo, that one knee injury seems to be coming back and at this point we have him for a game, lose him the next one or two. Not worth paying him and wasting a foreign spot when he is unreliable from a playing perspective.

Wilso8948
31-12-2015, 11:51 PM
Seen a couple of links with victor Saba via facey today during January. Also noted Anthony caceres on the outer. He could be our little judas. One for the future.

Jeterpool
01-01-2016, 07:18 AM
Seen a couple of links with victor Saba via facey today during January. Also noted Anthony caceres on the outer. He could be our little judas. One for the future.

At least Caceres would get on the park

380
01-01-2016, 09:22 AM
Would not have fed Caceres last season however this season i had him right up there as one of the most improved in the league.

parksey
01-01-2016, 02:22 PM
he would be amazing for us

The Dunster
01-01-2016, 02:41 PM
Why stop there ? Why not replace Miller with Hutcho ffs.

MFKS
01-01-2016, 05:24 PM
Why stop there ? Why not replace Miller with Hutcho ffs.

Hutcho would have more of an idea about our club and fans than Mr Park The Bus and Dog It

Mark325
01-01-2016, 10:55 PM
I'd rather we sign Bernardo Ribiero again. He was so class and there was no reason he wasn't a prominent player in the 2012/13 season for us.

380
01-01-2016, 11:06 PM
I'd rather we sign Bernardo Ribiero again. He was so class and there was no reason he wasn't a prominent player in the 2012/13 season for us.

Yep. in the few opportunities he was given he did look alright.

He was best on the field in the first half v Roar away and never appeared for the second half.

lquiquer
02-01-2016, 08:39 AM
I'd rather we sign Bernardo Ribiero again. He was so class and there was no reason he wasn't a prominent player in the 2012/13 season for us.

He is playing 4th division in Brazil at the moment

Tommyjet
02-01-2016, 09:53 AM
With the recent links to vitor Saba I'm thinking Leonardo long term injured and Saba injury replacement.
Saba a player with great skills but as we have seen he has a very questionable temperament.
That would leave us with another import spot for a speedy winger or a classy centre mid.

Couscous
02-01-2016, 10:14 AM
I know Newy's much cooler than it was, but is it cool enough for Saba and his girlfriend?

Tommyjet
02-01-2016, 10:42 AM
Also think we should make a move for naumoff at Sydney

Jetmaster
02-01-2016, 01:25 PM
Has anyone seen the Football Today show with Andy Townsend, Michael Owen and Dion Dublin discussing strikers? Was on last night and is on again today. From last season but interesting.

The subject that got me in was when they talked about Heskey. Michael Owen said that Heskey did not have the confidence or style to be a lone striker, that his best periods were with a partner and his barren periods were as a lone striker. As a lone striker he was too "nice" and was not assertive enough to act as a leader.

When we go chasing players do we even think about this sort of stuff. or do we just see a name available and go for it?

stopper2
02-01-2016, 01:30 PM
Herald reports that Miller is looking at 3 players to bolster the squad. It's been documented that the transfer of Leaky will give the club a windfall of approx. $425k which split between 3 players is about $140k each, which nowadays in A League terms is what an above average to half decent player is worth. Is 3 of these type of players going to really make a substantial difference to the squad?.....are they going to come straight into the starting XI and turn our season around?....I doubt it.
On the other hand you spend that $425k on 2 players, @ $210k each, you are getting into the high quality player bracket....the players on the big money who are in the starting XI unless injured/suspended and who the make a real difference on the pitch.
At this point in time I think we require the latter; 2 top notch quality players in the starting XI >>>>3 decent players who are essentially just boosting our squad with numbers.
Easier said than done though, as the quality players at that price of around $200k are much harder to find than the dime a dozen ones around $130-140k.
Thoughts anyone?

furns
02-01-2016, 02:35 PM
All depends who is available, and who is willing to come to the Jets at the end of the day

lquiquer
02-01-2016, 09:43 PM
If Birraz goes we should get Ochoa

stopper2
03-01-2016, 09:58 PM
Well lads, after today it is now apparent that the Jan transfer window is not about bolstering our squad in order to make a run for the semis....forget about that now. It is to avoid the dreaded spoon again. We are clearly in a battle now along with the Gypos and Glory for the the spoon. The other 7 will teams will be fighting it out for the top 6.

The Dunster
03-01-2016, 10:25 PM
I'd spend the entire $425k on a playmaker with scoring ability. Get that and it will take a lot of pressure of the rest of the team as we will have more options and hopefully the ability to hold / pass the ball.
Wanting three or more players as Miller has suggested only demonstrates he's now a headless chook running around the paddock.

Thomas477
03-01-2016, 10:36 PM
I'd spend the entire $425k on a playmaker with scoring ability. Get that and it will take a lot of pressure of the rest of the team as we will have more options and hopefully the ability to hold / pass the ball.
Wanting three or more players as Miller has suggested only demonstrates he's now a headless chook running around the paddock.

We need pace up front. I've seen faster teams in o/35s than our current frontline. Leo and sometimes Enver and Trif are quality players, but they're slow. Trif needs someone to play next to him, ala Heskey. Get a pacy forward to partner Trif and play a 442.

hawk
03-01-2016, 10:50 PM
and they said we can fix your squad

http://myfunnyreaction.com/media/k2/items/src/6872c3893ac5058b505224cac9dd8089.jpg

Wilso8948
04-01-2016, 08:59 AM
Think we need to have a serious look at Anthony Caceres. Yesterday again highlighted the need for a playmaker that will unlock defences. We look horseshit in our final third. Noted in a SMH article other potential Aussies abroad struggling for game time other then the obvious Taggart was Troisi and Brillante.

tomo
04-01-2016, 09:52 AM
We need pace up front. I've seen faster teams in o/35s than our current frontline. Leo and sometimes Enver and Trif are quality players, but they're slow. Trif needs someone to play next to him, ala Heskey. Get a pacy forward to partner Trif and play a 442.

I agree. Ive been saying for weeks that he needs someone with pace running off him, similar to heskey/owen... Heskey/fowler etc. he's too isolated up front

Jeterpool
04-01-2016, 10:24 AM
Think we need to have a serious look at Anthony Caceres. Yesterday again highlighted the need for a playmaker that will unlock defences. We look horseshit in our final third. Noted in a SMH article other potential Aussies abroad struggling for game time other then the obvious Taggart was Troisi and Brillante.

Troisi has been linked with Sydney and Melbourne teams. I could see him coming in as an injury replacement for Valeri.

Brillante and Troisi would be excellent signings for our team, however. It would be more of a sign of intent. Taggart obviously would too but I don't see him coming back with a new Fulham manager and having been recalled from loan.

MFKS
04-01-2016, 10:27 AM
I agree. Ive been saying for weeks that he needs someone with pace running off him, similar to heskey/owen... Heskey/fowler etc. he's too isolated up front

He actually needs some assistance period

Our wingers are far too wide of him.
Our midfield is far too deep from him.

95% of the time he gets the ball who is he playing it to anyway??

He ain't quick he ain't the greatest at holding the ball up.

Big question really is why did Millertime spend months looking for a striker and sign a bloke like him which completely goes against the style of play he is inflicting upon us with his cowardly tactics??

Brain dead stupid if you ask me


Why he persists on leaving the bloke isolated and frustrated all game and then has the nerve to hook him and bag him for failing when he is offered little support from his teammates defies belief

Tommyjet
04-01-2016, 11:21 AM
He actually needs some assistance period

Our wingers are far too wide of him.
Our midfield is far too deep from him.

95% of the time he gets the ball who is he playing it to anyway??

He ain't quick he ain't the greatest at holding the ball up.

Big question really is why did Millertime spend months looking for a striker and sign a bloke like him which completely goes against the style of play he is inflicting upon us with his cowardly tactics??

Brain dead stupid if you ask me


Why he persists on leaving the bloke isolated and frustrated all game and then has the nerve to hook him and bag him for failing when he is offered little support from his teammates defies belief
Would of been better served keeping montano for a second season.

MFKS
04-01-2016, 11:25 AM
Would of been better served keeping montano for a second season.

Montano is infinitely more suited to Millertimes shit tactics.

Frodo
04-01-2016, 02:59 PM
Halilti's injury has affected us much more than it would first appear. I reckon he would have made a massive difference to our team at the moment. Either up top, out wide but with more pace or beside Milos working hard to help him out. I think Kitto is trying to do the same thing but isn't ready yet.

I wouldn't mind seeing Nick Kalmar and Caceres show up. I also saw somewhere we were looking at Naumoff aren't we?

Taggart wasn't recalled, Dundee cancelled his and some others loans. I don't think he has much of a chance at Fulham this year, too far off the pace and it's too late in the year to get match-fit for them. We could have a chance of having him for the end of our season. Get him fit for next year.

WolfMan
04-01-2016, 05:10 PM
We need pace up front. I've seen faster teams in o/35s than our current frontline. Leo and sometimes Enver and Trif are quality players, but they're slow. Trif needs someone to play next to him, ala Heskey. Get a pacy forward to partner Trif and play a 442.

Glad you caught my guest appearance on the podcast :thumbsup:

Thomas477
04-01-2016, 07:43 PM
Glad you caught my guest appearance on the podcast :thumbsup:

You were on the podcast? I'll be honest, I've never listened to it. Been meaning to get around to it, haha.

Tommyjet
05-01-2016, 05:49 AM
Quote:
Melbourne City’s David Williams pulls out of Adelaide United swap deal

January 4, 2016
David Davutovic


MELBOURNE City’s swap deal with Adelaide United that would have secured defender Osama Malik is off, with David Williams pulling the pin on the deal.

Williams rejected an 18-month deal from United and now looks set to join struggling Newcastle Jets, who are desperate for attacking reinforcements.

City could make the first signing of the A-League January transfer window, which opens on Tuesday, with keeper Dean Bouzanis set to be unveiled.

Bouzanis is expected to sit on the bench against former club Western Sydney on Saturday at AAMI Park, with Tando Velaphi set to join a Japanese J-League club.

While City is keen to offload Williams and free up salary cap space, Adelaide was only prepared to release Malik if they secured a player in return.

Malik, who has been on the Socceroos radar, remains part of coach Guillermo Amor’s plans as United aim to qualify for the 2016 Asian Champions League.

Former Tottenham and Croatia attacker Niko Kranjcar, 31, is one of many overseas stars available to A-League clubs.

Kranjcar is on the outer at Ukrainian giants Dynamo Kiev after playing 22 games and scoring twice on loan to QPR in the Premier league last season.

Hamburg striker Ivica Olic, who’s scored 20 goals in 104 games for Croatia, is available.

Ronaldinho’s name has been floated to A-League clubs but there appears to be conjecture about his availability and his huge wage demands.

Greek international Giorgios Samaras is available and holds an Australian passport.

Irish striker Andy Keogh, whose contract was central to last season’s salary cap scandal, could make his Perth Glory return in Saturday’s clash with Adelaide United.

Glory officials will hold talks with one of their current visa players, believed to be Dutchman Guyon Fernandez, about paying out his contract to free up a spot.

Despite struggling both Central Coast and Newcastle could be losing key players, with gun attacker Anthony Caceres subject to offers from overseas and rival A-League clubs, while David Carney is on the verge of receiving an offer from the Middle East.

The availability of Socceroo James Troisi is subject to him being released by his Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad, while Fulham is seeking compensation for Olyroos striker Adam Taggart.

Thomas477
05-01-2016, 06:17 AM
Jeez, wouldn't mind Kranjcar.

Frodo
05-01-2016, 07:04 AM
Replace Carney with Williams... Double Win!

Olic would be better than Kranjcar for me. Can put it in the net efficiently and would do well against HAL defenses. Would be on a lot less money than Kranjcar as well who was on QPR money not long ago.

Could we steal any of Perfs Visa Players? I haven't seen much of Fernandez, is he on Marquee money?

Jeterpool
05-01-2016, 07:28 AM
I would be content with David Williams. He has A-League experience and brings speed to our front line. In addition, a bit of experience as well. I'd be happier with him coming on instead of, say, Pavicevic.

I expect an 18 month deal as well.

Tommyjet
05-01-2016, 08:09 AM
I would be content with David Williams. He has A-League experience and brings speed to our front line. In addition, a bit of experience as well. I'd be happier with him coming on instead of, say, Pavicevic.

I expect an 18 month deal as well.
Williams has speed and doesn't mind pulling the trigger, two things we are lacking.

hawk
05-01-2016, 01:10 PM
Williams has speed and doesn't mind pulling the trigger, two things we are lacking.

he has speed and Hoffman giving him advice, rof

Grimario
05-01-2016, 02:10 PM
Rumours I have read is Connor Pain looking to get out of MV for first team football. Has more pace than our entire squad combined.

Would be underwhelming and under deliver so perfect for us.

Jeterpool
05-01-2016, 02:13 PM
Rumours I have read is Connor Pain looking to get out of MV for first team football. Has more pace than our entire squad combined.

Would be underwhelming and under deliver so perfect for us.

Is Pain going away with the Olyroos?

It makes sense he is looking to move away. The best game he played was the match v Liverpool.

MFKS
05-01-2016, 02:35 PM
Quote:
Melbourne City’s David Williams pulls out of Adelaide United swap deal

January 4, 2016
David Davutovic


MELBOURNE City’s swap deal with Adelaide United that would have secured defender Osama Malik is off, with David Williams pulling the pin on the deal.

Williams rejected an 18-month deal from United and now looks set to join struggling Newcastle Jets, who are desperate for attacking reinforcements.

City could make the first signing of the A-League January transfer window, which opens on Tuesday, with keeper Dean Bouzanis set to be unveiled.

Bouzanis is expected to sit on the bench against former club Western Sydney on Saturday at AAMI Park, with Tando Velaphi set to join a Japanese J-League club.While City is keen to offload Williams and free up salary cap space, Adelaide was only prepared to release Malik if they secured a player in return.

Malik, who has been on the Socceroos radar, remains part of coach Guillermo Amor’s plans as United aim to qualify for the 2016 Asian Champions League.

Former Tottenham and Croatia attacker Niko Kranjcar, 31, is one of many overseas stars available to A-League clubs.

Kranjcar is on the outer at Ukrainian giants Dynamo Kiev after playing 22 games and scoring twice on loan to QPR in the Premier league last season.

Hamburg striker Ivica Olic, who’s scored 20 goals in 104 games for Croatia, is available.

Ronaldinho’s name has been floated to A-League clubs but there appears to be conjecture about his availability and his huge wage demands.

Greek international Giorgios Samaras is available and holds an Australian passport.

Irish striker Andy Keogh, whose contract was central to last season’s salary cap scandal, could make his Perth Glory return in Saturday’s clash with Adelaide United.

Glory officials will hold talks with one of their current visa players, believed to be Dutchman Guyon Fernandez, about paying out his contract to free up a spot.

Despite struggling both Central Coast and Newcastle could be losing key players, with gun attacker Anthony Caceres subject to offers from overseas and rival A-League clubs, while David Carney is on the verge of receiving an offer from the Middle East.

The availability of Socceroo James Troisi is subject to him being released by his Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad, while Fulham is seeking compensation for Olyroos striker Adam Taggart.

5 5 5
:roflz:
That is the funniest thing I have ever heard


Tando getting picked up by a foreign club

FMD

His agent is a ****ing gun deal maker to pull that off

Grimario
05-01-2016, 02:54 PM
Is Pain going away with the Olyroos?

It makes sense he is looking to move away. The best game he played was the match v Liverpool.

Probably. Would make him a certain signing for us if that's true. Sign a bloke and lose him for national selection.

Probably break a leg on international duty too.

Typical Jerks.

stopper2
05-01-2016, 03:37 PM
I would be content with David Williams. He has A-League experience and brings speed to our front line. In addition, a bit of experience as well. I'd be happier with him coming on instead of, say, Pavicevic.

I expect an 18 month deal as well.

Agree mate, would have Williams in a heartbeat over the likes of Caceres or Kalmar. Over the years whether it was Fury or City he has scored some solo goals or belters that not many other players in the A League could match. Has never really settled in at Melbourne City, maybe a change in Newy could do him good. I would rate him as an above average player, Kalmar is just another squad player while Caceres is another young player who has shown some good potential...but we have enough of those already in the squad.
If we have $420k to play with, there is no excuse if we cannot entice Williams here....plus we've got the lifestyle and the beaches:wink:

The Camel
05-01-2016, 03:47 PM
Agree mate, would have Williams in a heartbeat over the likes of Caceres or Kalmar. Over the years whether it was Fury or City he has scored some solo goals or belters that not many other players in the A League could match. Has never really settled in at Melbourne City, maybe a change in Newy could do him good. I would rate him as an above average player, Kalmar is just another squad player while Caceres is another young player who has shown some good potential...but we have enough of those already in the squad.
If we have $420k to play with, there is no excuse if we cannot entice Williams here....plus we've got the lifestyle and the beaches:wink:

There is also some talk of us chasing Corey Brown from Brizzy to replace Leaky G. Happier to hear that we are chasing the likes of Williams and Pain and Brown, would love us to try and get someone like Clut from Brisbane as well. But we will probably re sign Allan Welsh

Jetmaster
05-01-2016, 04:21 PM
Pain is on a minimal wage, would come cheap.

MFKS
05-01-2016, 04:57 PM
There is also some talk of us chasing Corey Brown from Brizzy to replace Leaky G. Happier to hear that we are chasing the likes of Williams and Pain and Brown, would love us to try and get someone like Clut from Brisbane as well. But we will probably re sign Allan Welsh

I am pretty certain we signed Corey Brown 2-3 years ago and he reneged on coming at he last minute didn't he???

stopper2
05-01-2016, 05:07 PM
I am pretty certain we signed Corey Brown 2-3 years ago and he reneged on coming at he last minute didn't he???

Think you are right member, anyway with the limited resources we have available in the Jan window spending some of it on a LB or any defender would be a total waste of money, which we can ill afford to do. We have decent enough defensive stocks both in the squad and the Youth to cover any losses.
We need to spend $$$ in the front third or else we will be collecting our second spoon in two seasons....hope that's the last I here Brown or any defenders name mentioned again on this thread FFS!!!:angry:

Jeterpool
05-01-2016, 05:37 PM
I am pretty certain we signed Corey Brown 2-3 years ago and he reneged on coming at he last minute didn't he???

Yes. Unsure if he ever signed officially but it was very close.

hawk
05-01-2016, 07:02 PM
Pain is on a minimal wage, would come cheap.

no Pain no gain

stopper2
05-01-2016, 07:29 PM
Newcastle Jets set to bolster playing roster

By JAMES GARDINER
Jan. 5, 2016, 4:40 p.m.


LONG-TERM: CEO David Eland insists the Jets are not after a quick fix.

CHIEF executive David Eland expects the Jets to have at least one new face in the squad for the next home game against Wellington.


The sale of Lee Ki-je to Ulsan Hyundai and on-going knee issues with Leonardo has stretched an already thin squad.


The A-League transfer window opened on Tuesday.


“We will be making some announcements in the next couple of days,” Eland said.


“The transfer of Lee Ki-je has enabled the club to take advantage of some of the salary-cap concessions that weren’t available before.


“The level of commitment is there from the FFA. Now we just have to find the right players. We are rebuilding the club and are looking for players to contribute beyond this season.”



Fingers crossed the player in question is David Williams. He is more renowned as a wide player but I have seen him play as a striker for City/Heart.
Pain wouldn't be available for 3 weeks as he is away with the Olyroos, don't think we can afford to wait and anyway I don't think he is a big impact player like Williams.

MFKS
05-01-2016, 07:50 PM
Newcastle Jets set to bolster playing roster

By JAMES GARDINER
Jan. 5, 2016, 4:40 p.m.


LONG-TERM: CEO David Eland insists the Jets are not after a quick fix.

CHIEF executive David Eland expects the Jets to have at least one new face in the squad for the next home game against Wellington.


The sale of Lee Ki-je to Ulsan Hyundai and on-going knee issues with Leonardo has stretched an already thin squad.


The A-League transfer window opened on Tuesday.


“We will be making some announcements in the next couple of days,” Eland said.


“The transfer of Lee Ki-je has enabled the club to take advantage of some of the salary-cap concessions that weren’t available before.


“The level of commitment is there from the FFA. Now we just have to find the right players. We are rebuilding the club and are looking for players to contribute beyond this season.”



Fingers crossed the player in question is David Williams. He is more renowned as a wide player but I have seen him play as a striker for City/Heart.
Pain wouldn't be available for 3 weeks as he is away with the Olyroos, don't think we can afford to wait and anyway I don't think he is a big impact player like Williams.
I wouldn't knock Pain as a player.

Watched him play Yoof a few years ago for the Tards and he was killing it.

Got a look into the HAL side and then has had scraps with Tards buying name players and not giving him a fair run.

I am sure we would cripple the kids career being we are shit and all but their is no reason why he couldn't become a very good player in the HAL if given the opportunity

Jeterpool
05-01-2016, 07:51 PM
I wouldn't knock Pain as a player.

Watched him play Yoof a few years ago for the Tards and he was killing it.

Got a look into the HAL side and then has had scraps with Tards buying name players and not giving him a fair run.

I am sure we would cripple the kids career being we are shit and all but their is no reason why he couldn't become a very good player in the HAL if given the opportunity

I agree

plague
05-01-2016, 08:02 PM
im suss on him. Bloke has little arms, like a carney.
no wonder he never takes throwins.

no thanks Middleby.

stopper2
05-01-2016, 10:20 PM
Seriously some people have NFI, have seen it twice in the last week or so people on The Herald's website calling for the club to bring back Bridges :lol:

The Dunster
05-01-2016, 10:29 PM
I wouldn't knock Pain as a player.

Watched him play Yoof a few years ago for the Tards and he was killing it.

Got a look into the HAL side and then has had scraps with Tards buying name players and not giving him a fair run.

I am sure we would cripple the kids career being we are shit and all but their is no reason why he couldn't become a very good player in the HAL if given the opportunity

http://serbenfiquista.com/sites/default/files/images/juniores0607073_0.jpg

We tried that experiment it didn't produce a positive result.

stopper2
05-01-2016, 10:38 PM
^^^
Yeah agree with the comments about Pain, no doubting he has potential but he won't be available for another 4 games if we sign him....we need someone now.
Is he in the same class as a MacLaren for Roar or Ferreira to the Gypos for example who is going to come into our side and make a difference....doubt it very much.
We have enough squaddies, we need game-breakers.

The Dunster
06-01-2016, 07:52 AM
Williams is a solid A-League player. He's not the most consistent striker / forward in the game but at least he is a known quantity. If he does come to the Jets I hope they don't continue the trend and pay him overs or offer him a long contract. Unfortunately, with the club needing goals I can see Williams manager exploiting it [and so he should] and the Jets once again paying way too much.