Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
I think it's safe to say that everyone would be happy if there were no abortions.

The key difference in this debate seem to be that the left wants to stop them at the source, but understands that there are circumstances that do require an abortion in order to protect people, including the baby.

The right wants to create a situation where they remove contraceptives, want to stop teaching sex education, want to force rape victims to share custody with their rapists and want to make sure that women continue to be the only thing that makes the right happy, which is a vessel to create life.


The middle ground is a huge investment in sex education, larger punishment for rape, better access to contraception, and then access to abortion to those cases that absolutely require them. I.e. The 10 yr old girl raped in Ohio 7 weeks ago that is currently having to travel across state lines to get an abortion that should have been a simple and safe procedure.


The majority of people are fine with abortions in some capacity (85% in the states versus 13% against, can't find Aus numbers but since we are a more progressive nation it would most definitely be more in favour), and since we live in a democracy the laws should be built around what the majority wants, not want the angry boomers on the right want, and especially not what the nutjobs that still believe in the bible want. The quicker religion dies out, albeit it's only happening in the first world for now, the better for society.
Mr Frodo you know i love and respect you but this post is about as disingenuous as you can get.
There is one issue here regarding the ruling: is the supreme court allowed to rule on abortion? Ansewe: no (for now).
Everything else is inconsequential to the debate.

Outside of that you have engaged with the worst person on here (who i also love and respect) and you should know better.

All those americans complaining about abortion and guns have one job in november and if they fail to even bother then they deserve the outcomes.

If public opinion is so in their favour then it should be a walk in the park to roll every single conservative politician in their path.

I look forward to the mayhem. Please join me in pointing and laughing at the lot of them.