Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
Mr Frodo you know i love and respect you but this post is about as disingenuous as you can get.
There is one issue here regarding the ruling: is the supreme court allowed to rule on abortion? Ansewe: no (for now).
Everything else is inconsequential to the debate.

Outside of that you have engaged with the worst person on here (who i also love and respect) and you should know better.

All those americans complaining about abortion and guns have one job in november and if they fail to even bother then they deserve the outcomes.

If public opinion is so in their favour then it should be a walk in the park to roll every single conservative politician in their path.

I look forward to the mayhem. Please join me in pointing and laughing at the lot of them.
I guess this debate is difficult because some of it affects AUS, and some of it affects the US. I worry about the US because parts of this country still look to them as an example to follow. So, I'd prefer if they didn't keep turning into a theocracy in order to make sure the crazies over here stay in their churches and don't affect the rest of us.


No amount of voting will help the US tho, they don't live in a democracy like us. Trumpf won the election with 3 million less votes than Hillary, Bush also lost the popular vote and still won the election. The supreme court, which has vast power, isn't elected by the people, and doesn't have term limits, so can be stacked and completely swing power to one party for decades at a time. Gerrymandering means that state leaders can hold power despite being wildly unpopular. The US unfortunately doesn't need more elections to fix it's issues, it needs an uprising, which won't happen because everyone is so financially beholden to their jobs to stay alive that they simply can't afford to cause trouble and protest. Unless your one of those army cosplay patriot groups, because they are all cops and no matter how much they **** up at their jobs the Union is simply too powerful to lose.