2016/17 Squad Thread

[StannyCFCJET]

If there was a zombie apocalypse and there were only 2 strikers left in the world, Bridge and Kokko, I may agree with you on Bridge.....begrudgingly.

FFS the guy is 31 and has a leg fracture....and we are still going to sign him. This club will do me. How about we actually recruit someone decent.....who doesn't have to be someone Jones has already seen. So darling lazy

Im guessing no one else was avaliable or wanted to come to the Jerks. Ryan Griffiths any one??

[borat]

These scholarships are very interesting. I am assuming what we have done is sign these players, I count 5 now, to the NYL contracted player positions, like Lundy was, and then loaned 2 out to Portugal.

To play NYL you have to have an NYL or HAL contract and standard NYL contracts are amateur contracts, hence why we can raid the Roar. This seems to be a loop hole that allows us to sign up more than 3 NYL players to min wage deals.

[Wilso8948]

These scholarships are very interesting. I am assuming what we have done is sign these players, I count 5 now, to the NYL contracted player positions, like Lundy was, and then loaned 2 out to Portugal.

To play NYL you have to have an NYL or HAL contract and standard NYL contracts are amateur contracts, hence why we can raid the Roar. This seems to be a loop hole that allows us to sign up more than 3 NYL players to min wage deals.

Not a bad thing if you have the resources and let's say 1/5 or so come off

[borat]

Im guessing no one else was avaliable or wanted to come to the Jerks. Ryan Griffiths any one??

If it's just for this season, then there are 10 games to go and he has another 4 weeks on the sideline plus needs to get fit. The club is taking the p*ss.

If it's for longer than this season then we should be aiming a lot higher than Mark Bridge......plus he is injured.

[StannyCFCJET]

If it's just for this season, then there are 10 games to go and he has another 4 weeks on the sideline plus needs to get fit. The club is taking the p*ss.

If it's for longer than this season then we should be aiming a lot higher than Mark Bridge......plus he is injured.

I had that thought as well but Mckinna and Lord Griff have made enough good decisions lately to get the benefit of the doubt from me. (At least for now)

[leftrightout]

I had that thought as well but Mckinna and Lord Griff have made enough good decisions lately to get the benefit of the doubt from me. (At least for now)

He has scored goals and won premierships for every club he has played for. Is it coincidence that he keeps playing in successful teams?
Cant argue with his record, i say sign him up!

[plague]

He has scored goals and won premierships for every club he has played for. Is it coincidence that he keeps playing in successful teams?
Cant argue with his record, i say sign him up!

Pffffft, Mark Bridge has never scored at A-League level.
Quite embassasing really.

Of course the Jets would want a player like that.

[borat]

Not a bad thing if you have the resources and let's say 1/5 or so come off

It's actually a very good thing imo. The difficult thing will be to turn the 1/5 into a HAL contracted Jet before they are poached by SFC/MV

[borat]

He has scored goals and won premierships for every club he has played for. Is it coincidence that he keeps playing in successful teams?
Cant argue with his record, i say sign him up!

He isn't a striker and won't score goals regularly. That isn't his game and never has been. He plays more effectively in wide positions or behind the striker, positions where we have better players. He is also 31 and his best days are behind him. We aren't signing the player he used to be, we are signing the downhill version.

Before he was injured, I could stomach a contract for the rest of the season on the basis that there was no one else. But to sign Bridge for 2-3 years on the sort of cash talked about earlier this year is a dumb decision. It's well and trulely time to move on.

[Jetmaster]

TBH, Griff loves the guy and was gutted when he left for Sydney. For them to knock back Griff Jnr (if he did offer himself - which I doubt) and go after Bridge says something.

[MFKS]

He isn't a striker and won't score goals regularly. That isn't his game and never has been. He plays more effectively in wide positions or behind the striker, positions where we have better players. He is also 31 and his best days are behind him. We aren't signing the player he used to be, we are signing the downhill version.

Before he was injured, I could stomach a contract for the rest of the season on the basis that there was no one else. But to sign Bridge for 2-3 years on the sort of cash talked about earlier this year is a dumb decision. It's well and trulely time to move on.
Whom are you talking about as better option behind the striker???

Clut
Brown

???

Yu not talking about old man Nordstrand? ??

Bridge is a much better option at 10 than we currently have

[Bon]

If there was a zombie apocalypse and there were only 2 strikers left in the world, Bridge and Kokko, I may agree with you on Bridge.....begrudgingly.

FFS the guy is 31 and has a leg fracture....and we are still going to sign him. This club will do me. How about we actually recruit someone decent.....who doesn't have to be someone Jones has already seen. So darling lazy

This..

[borat]

Whom are you talking about as better option behind the striker???

Clut
Brown

???

Yu not talking about old man Nordstrand? ??

Bridge is a much better option at 10 than we currently have
Petratos for next season for a start. Wayne Brown is a better 10 right now, which doesn't matter anyway when Bridge won't be fit for weeks.

But that's irrelevant because Jones is on record they want him as a striker.

[borat]

Yeh I agree to an extent. I'm just giving some reason as to why we would be keen on him. Still frees up a visa spot to go after a top line striker. Bridge probably offers you more then haliti if his career is coming to an end. Love Labs but well past it in my opinion. Bridge offers a little more in desperate times

If Bridge was a straight swap for Haliti on the same money, then without a doubt it would be great business. But the money quoted earlier to prise him away from his fat Thai retirement pension, 200k for the rest of the season, is not close to worth it. I shudder to think how much the deal for 2.5years was worth.

Hopefully the FFA/FIFA help us dodge a bullet here.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/01/31/henrique-set-leave-adelaide-united

Firming up even more with Slippery Snake heading to Chiangrai, looking to replace Bridges before he's even gone?!? HMMMMMMM


Welcome back to Newy Bridges.... :deadhorse:

[white city]

Do we have it official that it would be for more than just this season?

i agree that it isn't a wise choice given his age and he ain't one of the fittest 31yr olds going around. Not to mention the cap space that this would take up!!

this cash would be wiser used on many other options possibly european.

wasnt there some talk also in relation to targeting o'donovan for next season?

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Do we have it official that it would be for more than just this season?

i agree that it isn't a wise choice given his age and he ain't one of the fittest 31yr olds going around. Not to mention the cap space that this would take up!!

this cash would be wiser used on many other options possibly european.

wasnt there some talk also in relation to targeting o'donovan for next season?

Every piece of player signing information Lawrie gives out is about building the squad better than it is now, and building for the future. Signing Bridges for the end of the season only fills one of these criteria. Either he is lying, or he thinks Bridges can get us into the finals and that's our only aim for this year.. So who knows.

[borat]

Do we have it official that it would be for more than just this season?

i agree that it isn't a wise choice given his age and he ain't one of the fittest 31yr olds going around. Not to mention the cap space that this would take up!!

this cash would be wiser used on many other options possibly european.

wasnt there some talk also in relation to targeting o'donovan for next season?
Only speculating on the deal that was previously on the table which was for a further 2 seasons. But I can't believe even Lawrie is dumb enough to sign a player who has a fractured leg with 10 games to go. Reeks of desperation

[q-money]

what if it's actually michael bridges

[white city]

Only speculating on the deal that was previously on the table which was for a further 2 seasons. But I can't believe even Lawrie is dumb enough to sign a player who has a fractured leg with 10 games to go. Reeks of desperation

agree, even the owner too who controls the funds!!. we are better off fighting with what we have this year and focus recruiting for next season and beyond

[borat]

what if it's actually michael bridges

Both are out for 6-8 weeks so you could be onto something

[plague]

Petratos for next season for a start.

Wait wait wait.

When the sam heck did we arrive at this position?

[borat]

Wait wait wait.

When the sam heck did we arrive at this position?

Dare I ask what you are asking....

[borat]

Mainly down to the fact he was at a club that signs players of calibre every season

Ben Kalfallah
Berisha
Troisi
Rojas
Valeri
Del Pierre
Bozanic


They constantly bringing in quality experienced players.

Not likely a young kid is going to come through and get enough sustained opportunities to succeed unless they are top shelf talent themselves

Who have the Tards really developed over the years??

Broxham??
Thomas??
Geria??

Not thinking of many others whom have come through the club

Some decent players left off this list that have gone on to European Clubs. Regardless of the debate around Muscat being a decent coach or not, their record for developing players is pretty good.

James Jeggo
Mitchell Langarak
Thomas Deng
Sebastian Pasquali

[plague]

Dare I ask what you are asking....

I'm asking if people legit think Petratos was signed to be our #10 and if so what evidence is there that this is a good idea.

[white city]

Some decent players left off this list that have gone on to European Clubs. Regardless of the debate around Muscat being a decent coach or not, their record for developing players is pretty good.

James Jeggo
Mitchell Langarak
Thomas Deng
Sebastian Pasquali

i think Muscat only coaches Deng and Pasquali, and both those came out of the youth system there. Therefore i dont think they will say Muscat made them the players they are

[borat]

i think Muscat only coaches Deng and Pasquali, and both those came out of the youth system there. Therefore i dont think they will say Muscat made them the players they are
Have heard Muscat talk specifically of his involvement in Pasquali's development and subsequent deal OS.

[borat]

I'm asking if people legit think Petratos was signed to be our #10 and if so what evidence is there that this is a good idea.

Has played his entire career either as a #10 or a wide forward (mostly on the right). Considering he is now the longest signed player at the club I think it's a fair assumption he will play either of those positions. I don't believe he was signed to sit on the bench.

[StannyCFCJET]

Has played his entire career either as a #10 or a wide forward (mostly on the right). Considering he is now the longest signed player at the club I think it's a fair assumption he will play either of those positions. I don't believe he was signed to sit on the bench.

He will force Brown and Hoole to find consistency every week which is a good thing.

[turbojetfireV8]

Hoole getting ahead of himself again:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4439600/hoole-cool-on-settling-future/?cs=306
At least the end comments sound more like management's massive boner over signing a one-legged wankles might be waning a bit... hopefully...

[Jetmaster]

Hoole getting ahead of himself again:
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4439600/hoole-cool-on-settling-future/?cs=306
At least the end comments sound more like management's massive boner over signing a one-legged wankles might be waning a bit... hopefully...

His agent putting more stupid ideas in his head again - if any young Aussie was to go overseas and never be heard from again it's Hoole.

He has had two seasons with a mark of 5 out of 10. This season he is probably a 7 out of 10. Needs at least one more season in the A-League before even considering a move o/s.

[Wilso8948]

To be fair I don't think anywhere does it actually quote Hoole saying he wants to go OS next year. Mostly as said it's probably coming from his agent.

Of course the kid would have aspirations of playing at a higher level. What player wouldn't? (edit Marc Warren)

Just hope there isn't too much hate directed towards him and hopefully he gets on with business and the rest will take care of itself in the coming years. I for one would be happy if he signs an extension. He's no world beater but in my opinion he has a positive influence on the side.

[Jeterpool]

To be fair I don't think anywhere does it actually quote Hoole saying he wants to go OS next year. Mostly as said it's probably coming from his agent.

Of course the kid would have aspirations of playing at a higher level. What player wouldn't? (edit Marc Warren)

Just hope there isn't too much hate directed towards him and hopefully he gets on with business and the rest will take care of itself in the coming years. I for one would be happy if he signs an extension. He's no world beater but in my opinion he has a positive influence on the side.

Well said. I think it's an important observation you've made that he hasn't actually said that - whether he privately has those aspirations or not.

It's probably games from his agent.

[RAM]

His agent putting more stupid ideas in his head again - if any young Aussie was to go overseas and never be heard from again it's Hoole.

He has had two seasons with a mark of 5 out of 10. This season he is probably a 7 out of 10. Needs at least one more season in the A-League before even considering a move o/s.

7 is generous

[The Dunster]

I'm asking if people legit think Petratos was signed to be our #10 and if so what evidence is there that this is a good idea.

I think he was signed to remind us how much the club hates us. He's like Antonis as in comes with massive wraps and all but doesn't deliver.

[MFKS]

He is off contract isn't he??
Overseas clubs sniffing about
Rival clubs sniffing about

Isn't this just typical agent dribble from an agent trying to get his client the most coin he can??

Hopefully Gypo and Griff remind him that he walked out on us then when he realised the grass ain't so green elsewhere came grovelling back.

Hold him to account for that and pay him market value and not a cent more

[borat]

So BK is a goalkeeping coach at Maitland now. That's an interesting move

[plague]

Has played his entire career either as a #10 or a wide forward (mostly on the right). Considering he is now the longest signed player at the club I think it's a fair assumption he will play either of those positions. I don't believe he was signed to sit on the bench.

yeah i just dont think he's a #10 for Roar in the same way the Jets expect him to be.

As I've stated before, in my opinion he gets the time and space he does because of the players around him. he's dropping down a huge level in teammates ability to do the same and i fear he's gonna be the straight up whipping boy when it all pans out.

[MFKS]

yeah i just dont think he's a #10 for Roar in the same way the Jets expect him to be.

As I've stated before, in my opinion he gets the time and space he does because of the players around him. he's dropping down a huge level in teammates ability to do the same and i fear he's gonna be the straight up whipping boy when it all pans out.

He be the whipping boy because he at the moment gonna be our big name signing

He ain't that good

The plebs are gonna expect that free kick v Victree every second week

Many though know he ain't that good and that the exception not the normal with him

[plague]

He be the whipping boy because he at the moment gonna be our big name signing

He ain't that good

The plebs are gonna expect that free kick v Victree every second week

Many though know he ain't that good and that the exception not the normal with him


again, the Member and Plague joining together to be correct and right.

another victory for President Trump

[Jeterpool]

Herald reporting we've signed Koutroumbis for another r2 years

[lquiquer]

Herald reporting we've signed Koutroumbis for another r2 years
finally good news

[Jeterpool]

finally good news

The retention of him along with ugarkovic and Jackson, extending Brown and convo started with Nabbout about extending it's good to see us doing positive business.

[Grimario]

I don't know how I can continue to support this club with this organised unrabble.

[Jeterpool]

I don't know how I can continue to support this club with this organised unrabble.

It's scary. Maybe it's why this place is quiet

[borat]

That's 4 x CB's signed for next season (Boogs, Jackson, Koutroumbis & Alessi). Even if Alessi is RB cover, I am comfortable with that and happy for Mullen to be let go and his money used elsewhere

It should also spell the end for Kanta you would think considering Koutroumbis can play DM.

[Hunter403]

That's 4 x CB's signed for next season (Boogs, Jackson, Koutroumbis & Alessi). Even if Alessi is RB cover, I am comfortable with that and happy for Mullen to be let go and his money used elsewhere

It should also spell the end for Kanta you would think considering Koutroumbis can play DM.

Jones has said he doesn't want players with injury history. Goodbye Kanta, goodbye Haliti.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jones has said he doesn't want players with injury history. Goodbye Kanta, goodbye Haliti.

Cant really argue with although isnt this Haliti's first major injury?

[StannyCFCJET]

Herald reporting we've signed Koutroumbis for another r2 years

Didnt Adelaide have some option of him?? maybe they said no. Brillant news but

[borat]

Didnt Adelaide have some option of him?? maybe they said no. Brillant news but

I suspect it was a gentlemans agreement between AUFC and Jones not to poach NYL players. Youth contracts like he was under at AUFC are not binding.

[rhysd]

When did ugarkovic re-sign? How long for? Or did he just get offered a deal?

[Tommyjet]

When did ugarkovic re-sign? How long for? Or did he just get offered a deal?

2 more years

[leftrightout]

Thats a really good signing, I like this kid!

[Jeterpool]

When did ugarkovic re-sign? How long for? Or did he just get offered a deal?

It was annoinced in December

[MFKS]

Fantastic news the club have re signed Johnny K

Bloke has deserved a deal well before now



ON a more pressing note. When are the club going to announce they have locked Home Grown Jones in for the future??

That to me a much more pressing issue.


Look good for Ledman if he actually puts his endorsement on Jones for some more stability

[Jeterpool]

Fantastic news the club have re signed Johnny K

Bloke has deserved a deal well before now



ON a more pressing note. When are the club going to announce they have locked Home Grown Jones in for the future??

That to me a much more pressing issue.


Look good for Ledman if he actually puts his endorsement on Jones for some more stability

He is signed for next season.

[plague]

Johnny K is good I like him.
Good job Middleby.

[The Dunster]

The Jets are actually at a point now where they don't look like the least attractive option for players to sign.
Johnny K continuing his career at Newcastle rather than going back to Adelaide shows just how far the Jets have come since Jones took over.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

The Jets are actually at a point now where they don't look like the least attractive option for players to sign.
Johnny K continuing his career at Newcastle rather than going back to Adelaide shows just how far the Jets have come since Martin Lee took over.

Fixed for you.

[Jetmaster]

The Jets are actually at a point now where they don't look like the least attractive option for players to sign.
Johnny K continuing his career at Newcastle rather than going back to Adelaide shows just how far the Jets have come since Jones took over.

Hope Kitto feels like a dill.

[plague]

The Jets are actually at a point now where they don't look like the least attractive option for players to sign.
Johnny K continuing his career at Newcastle rather than going back to Adelaide shows just how far the Jets have come since GRIFF took over.

fixed this for all you heathens.

[MFKS]

He is signed for next season.
I was talking more about a 4/5 year deal

Give the club supporters players etc a degree of certainty that it is in Jones we trust etc

[Jeterpool]

fixed this for all you heathens.

This

[Jeterpool]

I was talking more about a 4/5 year deal

Give the club supporters players etc a degree of certainty that it is in Jones we trust etc

Ah, right.

If he makes the finals, I agree we should consider opening the conversation.

[The Camel]

I was talking more about a 4/5 year deal

Give the club supporters players etc a degree of certainty that it is in Jones we trust etc

The bloke hasn't even managed a win vs the Gypos yet and you want to give him a 5 year deal. That will do me.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I was talking more about a 4/5 year deal

Give the club supporters players etc a degree of certainty that it is in Jones we trust etc

Would we give any players a 4-5 year deal?

[baldrick]

I was talking more about a 4/5 year deal

Give the club supporters players etc a degree of certainty that it is in Jones we trust etc


Tinks signed Branko for 5 years..

That went well

But yes, a longer contract would give stability given we're already signing players

[borat]

Jones was signed as a stop gap measure and no decision on whether he is retained or extended should be made until the season has concluded. Top 6 was the minimum requirement that both he and the gypo stated at the beginning of the year and if he succeeds in doling so then reward him with a modest extension. If he fails with the squad at his disposal then he should be shown the door and a recruitment process, that isn't rushed, should occur. A coach who can recruit foreign players should be a pre-requisite.

[The Dunster]

Jones was signed as a stop gap measure and no decision on whether he is retained or extended should be made until the season has concluded. Top 6 was the minimum requirement that both he and the gypo stated at the beginning of the year and if he succeeds in doling so then reward him with a modest extension. If he fails with the squad at his disposal then he should be shown the door and a recruitment process, that isn't rushed, should occur. A coach who can recruit foreign players should be a pre-requisite.

What should he be offered if the team finish top 4 or make the grand final ?

[borat]

Jets Player Contract Status

15 Senior Players Contracted for next season (20min to 23max)

including
2 x Visa Players (Max 5)
4 x u20 Players (Min 3)
1 x goalkeeper (Min 2)

Additionally outside the 20-23 Man squad

1 x Mature Age Rookie
4 x NYL Scholarship Players (Maximum 6)

Contracted until 17/18

3. Jason Hoffman
4. Nigel Boogaard
9. Alexander Kokko (visa)
13. Ivan Vujica (u20)
15. Andrew Nabbout
16. Nick Cowburn (eligible for Home Grown Player allowance - up to 150K per club)
20. Jack Duncan
21. Daniel Alessi (u20)
23. Devante Clut
29. Joel Allwright (Mature Age Rookie)
??. Kosta Petratos (u20)
??. Antonee Burke (NYL Scholarship) (on loan with Académica de Coimbra until July 17)
??. Joe Champness (NYL Scholarship) (on loan with Académica de Coimbra until July 17)

Contracted until 18/19

6. Steven Ugarkovic
10. Wayne Brown (visa)
22. Lachlan Jackson
28. John Koutroumbis (u20)
??. Mark Moric (NYL Scholarship)

Contracted until 19/20

??. Dimitri Petratos

Off Contract

1. Ben Kennedy (eligible for Loyalty Player Allowance of 50% salary - up to 200k per club)
2. Dan Mullen
5. Ben Kantarovski (eligible for Loyalty Player Allowance of 50% salary - up to 200k per club)
7. Andrew Hoole
8. Mateo Poljak (visa)
11. Labinot Haliti
17. Ma Leilei (visa)
19. Morten Nordstrand (visa)
24. Kristian Bymora (u20)
50. Tomislav Arcaba (injury replacement)

[borat]

What should he be offered if the team finish top 4 or make the grand final ?

Top 6 should be a 1 yr extension IMO. Its an achievement but only the minimum. A 1 year extension gives him 2 yrs left on the contract and the certainty to keep building, if thats what happens Making the GF should be a considerable acheivement and worth a 2-3 year extension imo.

My point is, Jones has done nothing yet and there shouldn't be any talk of an extension until he actually achieves something. A loss this week, which IMO is very likely, will see us drop out of the 6 again. Signing an 18yo kid, albeit a promising one, he formerly coached in the NYL is hardly anything to crow about.

[The Dunster]

Jets Player Contract Status

Off Contract

1. Ben Kennedy (eligible for Loyalty Player Allowance of 50% salary - up to 200k per club)
2. Dan Mullen
5. Ben Kantarovski (eligible for Loyalty Player Allowance of 50% salary - up to 200k per club)
7. Andrew Hoole
8. Mateo Poljak (visa)
11. Labinot Haliti
17. Ma Leilei (visa)
19. Morten Nordstrand (visa)
24. Kristian Bymora (u20)
50. Tomislav Arcaba (injury replacement)

Nice post.

Of the senior players.

Hoole, Poljak, and Leilei I would keep.
Would be nice to get Poljak as an Aussie and Hoole's management needs to be given a reality check if they start the smack talk during negotiations.
Labi - He's not gettting a run as it is - WHich suggests his future after this season maybe already decided.
Morten I'm, not sure about - age / durability is a concern. - Maybe a one year contract.
Kanta - I'm a big fan but he has too many injury concerns. Would he play for $75k or less a season ?
BK - If we can massively reduce his salary and get the 50% discount as well from the cap then yes. Otherwise. No.

[borat]

Based on who we have signed for 17/18 it leaves us with the following team and depth


Duncan

Hoffman---Boogaard---Jackson---Vujica

Koutroumbis----Ugarkovic

D Petratos----------------------------Nabbout

Brown

Kokko



With back up players


??????

Allwright---Alessi---?????---Cowburn

?????----Burke

Champness----------------------------Moric

Clut

K Petratos

With another 5-8 senior players to be added to the roster. We have plenty of holes to fill in depth and in the first team but some of the off contract players would be worth a considerable amount of salary cap.
My resigning and new signings to fill the 5-8 players would be



Hoole


Nordstrand (if Kokko is transferred)


Leilei (if forced to sign another chinese player)/If not Visa LW/RW


Pierce-Clark (or best NYL Goal Keeper)


Visa Striker


Visa DM


Squaddie RB (maybe just for depth)


Leaving out Poljak would be controversial but IMO if we are seriously going to improve the quality of the squad then a classy visa striker and DM is what is needed. IMO Duncan is the settled No 1 and we could do with either promoting our youth keeper, if he is up to it, or signing another who is eager for the opportunity. BK has had a long career but his time is up IMO

[MFKS]

Top 6 should be a 1 yr extension IMO. Its an achievement but only the minimum. A 1 year extension gives him 2 yrs left on the contract and the certainty to keep building, if thats what happens Making the GF should be a considerable acheivement and worth a 2-3 year extension imo.

My point is, Jones has done nothing yet and there shouldn't be any talk of an extension until he actually achieves something. A loss this week, which IMO is very likely, will see us drop out of the 6 again. Signing an 18yo kid, albeit a promising one, he formerly coached in the NYL is hardly anything to crow about.
Harsh

Achieve making the top 6 and get a 1 year extension??

FMD
Same club not made the top 6 in ****ing years and years and this bloke will have done it on a shot gun preparation


For that you want to give him a 1 year contract??


We should be building a statue if the bloke gets us to the finals


This bloke has achieved something already

He actually has shown that he knows what he is ****ing doing by actually getting us to have a threatening game plan

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[parksey]

Harsh

Achieve making the top 6 and get a 1 year extension??

FMD
Same club not made the top 6 in ****ing years and years and this bloke will have done it on a shot gun preparation


For that you want to give him a 1 year contract??


We should be building a statue if the bloke gets us to the finals


This bloke has achieved something already

He actually has shown that he knows what he is ****ing doing by actually getting us to have a threatening game plan

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a one year extension would keep him here until 2019.

a lot can change in this league in less than a year, giving out 5 year contracts to coaches would be madness.

[hawk]

We should be building a statue if the bloke gets us to the finals

never.

He doesnt get reamed if he makes the finals.

If he wins the GF he gets a lotto ticket for being the arsiest coach ever.

[hawk]

Way too early for me to start raving about the famous Johnny K yet. Hope he keeps improving into a genuine aleaguer or more.

He's going ok for his age so far.

I did find it interesting that his old boy prefered him to gain experience and skills from senior football instead of youth academies.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Harsh

Achieve making the top 6 and get a 1 year extension??

FMD
Same club not made the top 6 in ****ing years and years and this bloke will have done it on a shot gun preparation


For that you want to give him a 1 year contract??


We should be building a statue if the bloke gets us to the finals


This bloke has achieved something already

He actually has shown that he knows what he is ****ing doing by actually getting us to have a threatening game plan

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No.

Making the finals should be the minimum he should achieve.

As of right now we're out of the 6 again, and it's unlikely we'll pick up a total of 6 points at perth in one year. But if we do we're still only one loss from being out of the finals.

If he makes the top 6/4 next year after a full pre-season and HIS player choice for the most part, i'd consider 1 more year. He'd have to do something VERY special to consider anything longer.

[skullboy]

never.

He doesnt get reamed if he makes the finals.

If he wins the GF he gets a lotto ticket for being the arsiest coach ever.

I concur.

[StannyCFCJET]

If Jones doesnt make the finals then we either sack him or get rid off half this squad who havent performed enough at a level good enough to make finals.

[The Dunster]

If Jones doesnt make the finals then we either sack him or get rid off half this squad who havent performed enough at a level good enough to make finals.

The Jets have spent significantly less on players than every club except the Central Coast. Anything better than 2nd last will be a solid effort.
The team was beaten away 3-2 by a team that is a genuine top 3 chance this season.
I find this level of criticism too harsh to take seriously - and hope it doesn't make it's way to the stadium.
If I felt as negative about the Jets as you do I would simply walk away or find another team to support.
Sure we have players that failed in one-on-one situations last night - but Castro is going to make anyone in this league look foolish.
Give Jones a player like Castro and see what happens.

[Jetmaster]

If Jones doesnt make the finals then we either sack him or get rid off half this squad who havent performed enough at a level good enough to make finals.

You must be one of the guys who expected Lee to spend a billion as soon as he walked through the door. How do you get rid of "half the squad"?

It was always said that this was a year of regrouping with a new owner, sorting out the books first - the Miller sacking was unexpected, but Jones will not get the sack even if we lose all of our games.

He will get a full preseason and the chance to put together a squad with some extra spending money.

We are playing good football, scoring goals as well as securing important young players. Our issue is our defence across the park. We are in a much better space than 12 months ago.

[borat]

Disagree entirely for the main reason that Jones was a rushed decision a month out of the start of the comp. this wasn't a careful decision. We rejected more capable overseas candidates due to the time restraint at the time. And maybe that was the right call, maybe not. But that doesn't make it the right call for the coming years.

If he is able to achieve a finals berth, which is only a minor improvement on last year with a much better squad, then that's the minimum. We scored 30 points last year with 8 wins and I am struggling to see how we will surpass that at this rate. And disagree that Jones is at all responsible for a better infield product. His predecessor signed 2 of the better wingers in the league and we are counter attacking with them and scoring plenty of goals. Great. But we seem to be inept at the back with no plan how to fix it.

But regardless of my opinion, the league table at the end of the season is the best indicator as to wether Jones is improving the team. If a better squad with the leagues leading player is going backwards then the offseason should be used to recruit the right coach.

[borat]

It was always said that this was a year of regrouping

Sorry but that's complete bollocks. Show me any quotes where that was said by Lee, Mckinna or Jones?

[halo se7en]

Disagree entirely for the main reason that Jones was a rushed decision a month out of the start of the comp. this wasn't a careful decision. We rejected more capable overseas candidates due to the time restraint at the time. And maybe that was the right call, maybe not. But that doesn't make it the right call for the coming years.

If he is able to achieve a finals berth, which is only a minor improvement on last year with a much better squad, then that's the minimum. We scored 30 points last year with 8 wins and I am struggling to see how we will surpass that at this rate. And disagree that Jones is at all responsible for a better infield product. His predecessor signed 2 of the better wingers in the league and we are counter attacking with them and scoring plenty of goals. Great. But we seem to be inept at the back with no plan how to fix it.

But regardless of my opinion, the league table at the end of the season is the best indicator as to wether Jones is improving the team. If a better squad with the leagues leading player is going backwards then the offseason should be used to recruit the right coach.

+1

[StannyCFCJET]

The Jets have spent significantly less on players than every club except the Central Coast. Anything better than 2nd last will be a solid effort.
The team was beaten away 3-2 by a team that is a genuine top 3 chance this season.
I find this level of criticism too harsh to take seriously - and hope it doesn't make it's way to the stadium.
If I felt as negative about the Jets as you do I would simply walk away or find another team to support.
Sure we have players that failed in one-on-one situations last night - but Castro is going to make anyone in this league look foolish.
Give Jones a player like Castro and see what happens.

Well players like Mullen have proven time and time again there not good enough yet Jones still picks them

[380]

I distinctly remember our Gypo CEO commenting he did not want a coach who was going to come in and use the " not my squad : cop out.

[Jetmaster]

Sorry but that's complete bollocks. Show me any quotes where that was said by Lee, Mckinna or Jones?


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/newcastle-jets-new-owner-martin-lee-to-take-small-steps/news-story/fd766528768427933ea381c15cc70cf7

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/newcastle-jets-new-owner-martin-lee-to-take-small-steps/news-story/fd766528768427933ea381c15cc70cf7

Is that some kind of sick joke?

Linking us to a pay walled Article?

FMD.

[380]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mckinna-no-decision-yet-438009

[borat]

Ring any bells Jetmaster? Rebuilding my ass.


Newcastle CEO Lawrie McKinna echoed Boogaard’s confidence stating the side was capable of higher honours in the near future.

“We want to be qualifying for the Asian Cup after three seasons,” he said to FourFourTwo. “That’s what the Chairman and that’s what the owners want. I know that the coaches know that. If we scrape in the finals this year we want to be in the finals the year after and we want to be challenging for an Asian Champions League spot at the end of the third year.”

“The club is screaming out for a team that represents the area, they want team that engages with the local community they want a team that’s going to be competitive.”

http://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/jets-finals-ambition-ready-to-take-off-439113

[borat]

Its reasonable imo to expect an improved performance this season with a better squad. Its undeniable that the addition of Nabbout, Hoole and Brown improved the squad along with a full season for Ugarkovic. If we finished 7th but ended up just outside the 6 with 34+ points then maybe that would be unlucky an absolute bare minimum pass mark. Can't keep accepting mediocrity without accountability under the guise of a yearly re-building process, which is exactly what Mckinna said at the start of the season. In his own words, "coaches come and go".

[borat]

I distinctly remember our Gypo CEO commenting he did not want a coach who was going to come in and use the " not my squad : cop out.

Yup


"Basically someone who can go to work straight away because we don't want any excuses that it's not my squad. The person who comes in here thinks he can get the team into the top six. No excuses saying it's not my team."

[parksey]

Gonna be tough for us to qualify for the Asian Cup

[hawk]

the Asian Cup
did you mention Asian cup and us in the same sentence?

wheres that Meme of the old codgers laughing all over the place.

[plague]

We won 5 games of football all year innit.

The **** are some of you lot optimistic for?

[The Dunster]

Its reasonable imo to expect an improved performance this season with a better squad. Its undeniable that the addition of Nabbout, Hoole and Brown improved the squad along with a full season for Ugarkovic. If we finished 7th but ended up just outside the 6 with 34+ points then maybe that would be unlucky an absolute bare minimum pass mark. Can't keep accepting mediocrity without accountability under the guise of a yearly re-building process, which is exactly what Mckinna said at the start of the season. In his own words, "coaches come and go".

You really need to buy yourself an A-League franchise and show everyone how easy it is.
Keep an eye on Ebay for Adelaide to be listed.

[The Dunster]

We won 5 games of football all year innit.

The **** are some of you lot optimistic for?

Winning is so over rated. Losing is the only true currency in this morally bankrupt world we live in.

[PC14]

Tom Smithies saying Dimi Petratos off to Korea rather then coming to the Jets.

[rhysd]

Nice, transfer fee without even doing a thing!

[StannyCFCJET]

Tom Smithies saying Dimi Petratos off to Korea rather then coming to the Jets.

What the actual ****, Can we claim compensation if this is the case?

[Jeterpool]

What the actual ****, Can we claim compensation if this is the case?

Jade North did a similar thing to North Queensland I believe

[StannyCFCJET]

Jade North did a similar thing to North Queensland I believe

Ahh yes I remember, didnt Adam Griffiths do something like this as well? Hopefully its all journo rubbish

[Jeterpool]

Ahh yes I remember, didnt Adam Griffiths do something like this as well? Hopefully its all journo rubbish

The only logical answer, given his move was prompted due to homesickness, is that his parents have mored to South Korea.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/petratos-to-complete-medical-in-kore/17izse2evszpp1ouynb7frne20

Maybe it's only till the end of the season? Interesting.

[borat]

Nice, transfer fee without even doing a thing!

I wouldn't count on it. Nailed on release clause

[PC14]

Can we claim compensation if this is the case?

Daniel Garb tweeting that there will be compensation if he signs with Ulsan

[Grimario]

I wouldn't count on it. Nailed on release clause

Apart from the fact that every outlet is saying "Newcastle will receive compensation if he signs"... right?

[Jeterpool]

Classic Jerks.

Can't make this stuff up

[StannyCFCJET]

[QUOTE=Roundball Enthusiast;173369]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/petratos-to-complete-medical-in-kore/17izse2evszpp1ouynb7frne20

Was his contract with us not official yet??

[Grimario]

Classic Jerks.

Can't make this stuff up

It's brilliant though. We get financial compensation without having to put up with Petratos being shit 4 out of 5 games and doing something spectacular 1 in 5. No frustration, just cold hard cash. Law Mac and Ledman getting shit done.

[Jeterpool]

It's brilliant though. We get financial compensation without having to put up with Petratos being shit 4 out of 5 games and doing something spectacular 1 in 5. No frustration, just cold hard cash. Law Mac and Ledman getting shit done.

But he never got the chance to be dropped at the train station by Deansy and given a lobster to say "thanks for coming"

[halo se7en]

We won 5 games of football all year innit.

The **** are some of you lot optimistic for?

We do have the best coach ever though... just waiting for him to sign his own players....

[Roundball Enthusiast]

InB4 Member comes along singing praise for Jones gaining us extra $ without having to do anything. Smartest man alive etc.

[halo se7en]

You really need to buy yourself an A-League franchise and show everyone how easy it is.
Keep an eye on Ebay for Adelaide to be listed.

I didn't expect you to pull out this old chestnut. On that basis none of us should be commenting on the a-league at all.

[Jeterpool]

I didn't expect you to pull out this old chestnut. On that basis none of us should be commenting on the a-league at all.

Except for Hawk.

He's f***ing loaded.

[borat]

Apart from the fact that every outlet is saying "Newcastle will receive compensation if he signs"... right?
Transfer fee, that I replied to, and compensation are two different things.

Ok maybe I should have rephrased that better. Compensation as part of a release clause is standard fare. It's won't be anything decent though.

When he signed with the Jets you can bet this Korean deal was on the table. Petratos' manager would have insisted on an out clause for an OS deal.

[RAM]

hahahahaha how incompetent

[borat]

I didn't expect you to pull out this old chestnut. On that basis none of us should be commenting on the a-league at all.

I guess I should just be giving Mckinna and Jones more credit for trying really hard.

[plague]

hahahahaha how incompetent

I heard free agent executive Robbie Middleby was being brought in to negotiate the compensation.......

[borat]

The funniest part in all this is that we are now stuck with the shit Petratos

[StannyCFCJET]

Honestly why are we even surprised. Sums up whats it like supporting the Jets post 2008

[plague]

The funniest part in all this is that we are now stuck with the shit Petratos

bahahahahahah oh man oh man oh man i didnt even have time to process this.

Go the Jets.

[rhysd]

Transfer fee, that I replied to, and compensation are two different things.

Ok maybe I should have rephrased that better. Compensation as part of a release clause is standard fare. It's won't be anything decent though.

When he signed with the Jets you can bet this Korean deal was on the table. Petratos' manager would have insisted on an out clause for an OS deal.

Our compensation will come through means of splitting the transfer fee. As is standard practice with players who break a pre-contract agreement.

We will probably end up signing him anyway when he gets released by the Koreans. Wonderful business.

[StannyCFCJET]

So with Petratos gone who is off contract in the A league that we could get who is at a similar or higher level then Dimi?

[Guerny]

Our compensation will come through means of splitting the transfer fee. As is standard practice with players who break a pre-contract agreement.


So he has maybe ~10-20 games left to play for Roar, vs 2-3 seasons with the jets....

But Roar are the ones that get to OK the transfer? Did Jets have any say?

I hope the transfer fee split reflects the x games commitment at roar vs the 2-3 seasons commitment he made to Jets.

[The Camel]

So with Petratos gone who is off contract in the A league that we could get who is at a similar or higher level then Dimi?

Milos Ninkovic

[plague]

So with Petratos gone who is off contract in the A league that we could get who is at a similar or higher level then Dimi?

I'm sure we can overpay a wheelbarrow or bean bag in order to get the same experience.

[borat]

Milos Ninkovic

mmmmm maybe he might be gunshy considering we signed him previously and rescinded the contract. That and the marquee salary he will be earning at SFC next year

[borat]

So our recruitment record under the esteemed leadership of Lawrie McKinna and Mark Jones is


Offer a contract to Tom Glover and Ante Covic as an injury replacement........and we get rejected


Sign an injury replacement.........and the FFA has to tell us he is ineligible and must wait until the transfer window


Offer another contract to Ante Covic..........and we get rejected again


Ring every local goal keeper in town until one answers the phone to board a plane that evening, so to avoid fielding a 15 year old keeper


Sign an 18 year old injury replacement from the NYL, albeit has worked out ok


Offer a 31 year old a 2 & 1/2 year deal on rumoured to be 300-400k a season.......only for the 31 year old to break down


In an effort to sign anyone half decent, we offer 3 year terms and employ the equivalent of George Weah's cousin to seal the deal, just to have him walk out on the deal leaving us with George Weah's cousin.


Hope I haven't missed anyone.

Would seriously like to know what good things that Lawrie has supposedly done in his time at the helm other than his trump esq twitter engagment

[MFKS]

So our recruitment record under the esteemed leadership of Lawrie McKinna and Mark Jones is


Offer a contract to Tom Glover and Ante Covic as an injury replacement........and we get rejected


Sign an injury replacement.........and the FFA has to tell us he is ineligible and must wait until the transfer window


Offer another contract to Ante Covic..........and we get rejected again


Ring every local goal keeper in town until one answers the phone to board a plane that evening, so to avoid fielding a 15 year old keeper


Sign an 18 year old injury replacement from the NYL, albeit has worked out ok


Offer a 31 year old a 2 & 1/2 year deal on rumoured to be 300-400k a season.......only for the 31 year old to break down


In an effort to sign anyone half decent, we offer 3 year terms and employ the equivalent of George Weah's cousin to seal the deal, just to have him walk out on the deal leaving us with George Weah's cousin.


Hope I haven't missed anyone.

Would seriously like to know what good things that Lawrie has supposedly done in his time at the helm other than his trump esq twitter engagment
So let's just get a couple of things straight here.

The coach other than research and telling the club whom he wants signed or let go is responsible for this how??

Jones says I want player x
It then up to club to get the deal across the line

Hey bag the Gypo out all you like he more than fair game here.


But if Jones is up to his nuts responsible for the signing of players and is at fault here for these run of outs as you put it.
Then may is suggest the Gypo is to blame for not getting Jones out of this role at the club

Maybe he would be better pressed at this point in time in actually teaching our mid field to do their job better so our back 4 are not so much under the pump

[borat]

So let's just get a couple of things straight here.

The coach other than research and telling the club whom he wants signed or let go is responsible for this how??

Jones says I want player x
It then up to club to get the deal across the line

Hey bag the Gypo out all you like he more than fair game here.


But if Jones is up to his nuts responsible for the signing of players and is at fault here for these run of outs as you put it.
Then may is suggest the Gypo is to blame for not getting Jones out of this role at the club

Maybe he would be better pressed at this point in time in actually teaching our mid field to do their job better so our back 4 are not so much under the pump

If you read a bit more closely, you can see I am directly blaming Mckinna for not signing the players. But the coach and his actions are a large part of why a player would or would not sign for a club.

I don't see players lining up to play under Jones. You only have to look at how he was slammed in the press over the weekend for his unprofessional public comments about Kokko. That doesn't go unnoticed by the players or their managers.

[MFKS]

If you read a bit more closely, you can see I am directly blaming Mckinna for not signing the players. But the coach and his actions are a large part of why a player would or would not sign for a club.

I don't see players lining up to play under Jones. You only have to look at how he was slammed in the press over the weekend for his unprofessional public comments about Kokko. That doesn't go unnoticed by the players or their managers.
Your first sentence says recruitment under McKinna and Jones

You may be laying the boot into the Gypo but your having a cheap shot at Jones with your petty agenda you have

Hey just calling it as it is

[borat]

Your first sentence says recruitment under McKinna and Jones

You may be laying the boot into the Gypo but your having a cheap shot at Jones with your petty agenda you have

Hey just calling it as it is

It is under those two....... but McKinna is responsible for signing them and Jones is responsible for attracting players who want to play for him. And they don't.

Or maybe its just a big coincidence we can't seem to recruit anyone to the club.

[StannyCFCJET]

Dario Vidisic is a free agent Get to it Mckinna

[borat]

Dario Vidisic is a free agent Get to it Mckinna

Where would you play him though? Maybe at AM could work

[plague]

Dario Vidisic is a free agent Get to it Mckinna

Is his brother any good?

[Jetmaster]

Is his brother any good?

Nuh - his dad has form though.

[StannyCFCJET]

Where would you play him though? Maybe at AM could work

An would be perfect

[Jeterpool]

Is his brother any good?

This :rof:

If not his brother I reckon we can get his dad

[StannyCFCJET]

Hearing were getting $150,000 from petratos deal and his agent is helping us find a replacement. Source TWG

[Wilso8948]

It's like borat has taken over the members account. So much negativity. Did jones **** you in a previous life? Steal your girl during high school?

[plague]

Hearing were getting $150,000 from petratos deal and his agent is helping us find a replacement. Source TWG

im feeling another 'undisclosed fee' coming.......

[borat]

It's like borat has taken over the members account. So much negativity. Did jones **** you in a previous life? Steal your girl during high school?

Nah.........Just a shit coach, at a level well above his abilities, whose days are numbered. This club will never change until we recruit a decent head coach and CEO.

[Wilso8948]

Nah.........Just a shit coach, at a level well above his abilities, whose days are numbered. This club will never change until we recruit a decent head coach and CEO.

Suggestions? Like serious question

[borat]

Suggestions? Like serious question

Josep Gombau and John Tsatsimas straight off the top of my head. And thats before we conduct another "world wide search"......... but seriously. First thing we should do is appoint a experienced CEO with actual credentials other than being the former lord and commander of scumville. Johnny T is one of the best in the business imo and it would be money well spent to poach him back. Maybe we could get some success in recruitment.

Then we run an actual recruitment process for a Manager. One that we don't have to cut short to locals from Toronto who wear I love McKinna T shirts. We could even consider poaching a high quality assistant from say, I don't know, the Danish Super Liga, a team like Aarlborg for example.

Or in seriousness we could tap into the Ledman Groups contacts for a coach from Portugal maybe. Plenty of options if we don't choose to just settle with what we have.

[OmeletteDuFromage]

im feeling another 'undisclosed fee' coming.......

Roar announced the transfer fee equals $300k, and Roar and Jets are splitting it.

[Wilso8948]

Josep Gombau and John Tsatsimas straight off the top of my head. And thats before we conduct another "world wide search"......... but seriously. First thing we should do is appoint a experienced CEO with actual credentials other than being the former lord and commander of scumville. Johnny T is one of the best in the business imo and it would be money well spent to poach him back. Maybe we could get some success in recruitment.

Then we run an actual recruitment process for a Manager. One that we don't have to cut short to locals from Toronto who wear I love McKinna T shirts. We could even consider poaching a high quality assistant from say, I don't know, the Danish Super Liga, a team like Aarlborg for example.

Or in seriousness we could tap into the Ledman Groups contacts for a coach from Portugal maybe. Plenty of options if we don't choose to just settle with what we have.
Gombau is with the National team and won't go anywhere. And isn't tsatsimas with an NRL club from memory after leaving wsw?
Miller is gone. Time to move on. If in your opinion Jones is shit then miller is too. Seriously they've both achieved pretty on par results with a relatively similar team.

[plague]

Roar announced the transfer fee equals $300k, and Roar and Jets are splitting it.

90/10?

[StannyCFCJET]

Gombau is with the National team and won't go anywhere. And isn't tsatsimas with an NRL club from memory after leaving wsw?
Miller is gone. Time to move on. If in your opinion Jones is shit then miller is too. Seriously they've both achieved pretty on par results with a relatively similar team.

When did he leave wsw?

[lquiquer]

So our recruitment record under the esteemed leadership of Lawrie McKinna and Mark Jones is


Offer a contract to Tom Glover and Ante Covic as an injury replacement........and we get rejected


Sign an injury replacement.........and the FFA has to tell us he is ineligible and must wait until the transfer window


Offer another contract to Ante Covic..........and we get rejected again


Ring every local goal keeper in town until one answers the phone to board a plane that evening, so to avoid fielding a 15 year old keeper


Sign an 18 year old injury replacement from the NYL, albeit has worked out ok


Offer a 31 year old a 2 & 1/2 year deal on rumoured to be 300-400k a season.......only for the 31 year old to break down


In an effort to sign anyone half decent, we offer 3 year terms and employ the equivalent of George Weah's cousin to seal the deal, just to have him walk out on the deal leaving us with George Weah's cousin.


Hope I haven't missed anyone.

Would seriously like to know what good things that Lawrie has supposedly done in his time at the helm other than his trump esq twitter engagment

New Year's Day:

@LawrieMcKinna So Babalj To WSW, Bridge prob to WSW, Antonis to WSW..... Bulut To Thailand and a Donkey if any one to @NewcastleJetsFC ?..😂

@lquiquer @NewcastleJetsFC give us a chance, you have no idea who the club is speaking to but still slam us

.......And after not wanting to tell who the club is talking to, because of confidentiality blah blah blah The CEO liked the following tweet.....

@lquiquer I am with @LawrieMcKinna on this. Leaking stories to the press means nothing. It's signing on the dotted line that counts.

Signing on the dotted line that counts......well after today counts for nothing if you ask me....

[Tommyjet]

It is under those two....... but McKinna is responsible for signing them and Jones is responsible for attracting players who want to play for him. And they don't.

Or maybe its just a big coincidence we can't seem to recruit anyone to the club.

Griffo is the football operation manager and does much of the negotiations. You gonna extend this pathetic cycle of blame to him too?

[Tommyjet]

New Year's Day:

@LawrieMcKinna So Babalj To WSW, Bridge prob to WSW, Antonis to WSW..... Bulut To Thailand and a Donkey if any one to @NewcastleJetsFC ?..😂

@lquiquer @NewcastleJetsFC give us a chance, you have no idea who the club is speaking to but still slam us

.......And after not wanting to tell who the club is talking to, because of confidentiality blah blah blah The CEO liked the following tweet.....

@lquiquer I am with @LawrieMcKinna on this. Leaking stories to the press means nothing. It's signing on the dotted line that counts.

Signing on the dotted line that counts......well after today counts for nothing if you ask me....

Your negative antics on twitter are truly embarrassing. Especially when you consistently misunderstand situations and end up back tracking once things have been explained.

[halo se7en]

Griffo is the football operation manager and does much of the negotiations. You gonna extend this pathetic cycle of blame to him too?

Pathetic cycle of blame? I don't know what's happened to this place but it was open season on Miller last year when he was digging us out of a far greater hole. Seemingly now the club can do no wrong, and Jones/McKinna are getting so much leeway, and for doing what exactly? Signing no-one in January and still sitting outside the top 6. Sure we're playing some nicer football sometimes, and sometimes it's utter balls, but it all doesn't mean shit if we're still out of the finals. And Jones' team selections week in week out are questionable. If Mullen isn't staying here next season, why not put Cowburn at LB? Not everyone rates him but surely that's a better long-term move development wise? He can hardly do worse. I'm still ****ing annoyed about the Miller sacking because it's now another one, two, maybe even three seasons by the time Jones is booted out and we get a new coach, and this magical re-build bullshit starts all over again. We had our chance with Miller and the club ****ed it up.

[Wilso8948]

When did he leave wsw?

Sorry must have mistaken him for another. He's still at WSW and would not go anywhere.

[Wilso8948]

Pathetic cycle of blame? I don't know what's happened to this place but it was open season on Miller last year when he was digging us out of a far greater hole. Seemingly now the club can do no wrong, and Jones/McKinna are getting so much leeway, and for doing what exactly? Signing no-one in January and still sitting outside the top 6. Sure we're playing some nicer football sometimes, and sometimes it's utter balls, but it all doesn't mean shit if we're still out of the finals. And Jones' team selections week in week out are questionable. If Mullen isn't staying here next season, why not put Cowburn at LB? Not everyone rates him but surely that's a better long-term move development wise? He can hardly do worse. I'm still ****ing annoyed about the Miller sacking because it's now another one, two, maybe even three seasons by the time Jones is booted out and we get a new coach, and this magical re-build bullshit starts all over again. We had our chance with Miller and the club ****ed it up.

On the flip side. When did Miller become the Messiah? In my opinion you put Jones v Miller and they've achieved on par with eachother. No more no less. Squad ability is probably the same. You can't honestly say Jone's is sooo much better etc.
Maybe its just a good thing that people are getting behind the team. It was starting to happen under Miller. Things were coming good. He ****ed up. We move on and now it's starting to happen under Jones.

[halo se7en]

On the flip side. When did Miller become the Messiah? In my opinion you put Jones v Miller and they've achieved on par with eachother. No more no less. Squad ability is probably the same. You can't honestly say Jone's is sooo much better etc.
Maybe its just a good thing that people are getting behind the team. It was starting to happen under Miller. Things were coming good. He ****ed up. We move on and now it's starting to happen under Jones.

I've never had him up as the messiah but he didn't do a lot wrong & had us going in the right direction after our most disastrous season. I guess that's my point though - why was Miller bagged on so much when Jones is seemingly given a free pass?

[StannyCFCJET]

On the flip side. When did Miller become the Messiah? In my opinion you put Jones v Miller and they've achieved on par with eachother. No more no less. Squad ability is probably the same. You can't honestly say Jone's is sooo much better etc.
Maybe its just a good thing that people are getting behind the team. It was starting to happen under Miller. Things were coming good. He ****ed up. We move on and now it's starting to happen under Jones.

Jones has us playing a better brand of football. If he stops playing players out of position and just gives up on picking Mullen ever again and get either Kokko or Nordstrand scoring goals then we'd be in the finals. People don't seem to realise how hard it is to sign people in january unless you want to pay stupid money or sign someone out of contract who may not be good enough. Im highly critical of Jones cause he has made mistakes, but he never went 10 games without scoring and never set up his team to park the bus with 4 +30 attackin players including Devon Head

[Jetmaster]

There is often a saying (many times on this foz), that the fans won't care about the result as long as their team is getting in and having a go.

Last season we looked like deer in headlights apart from a couple of games and up until the second Sydney game this year it was the same. Since that pathetic game where we didn't have a shot on goal something has clicked and we are at least creating chances galore, and getting a few in.

Of course we are far from perfect and the defence is still leaky but I am leaving stadiums now having enjoyed the match which wasn't the case over the last 24 months.

[StannyCFCJET]

There is often a saying (many times on this foz), that the fans won't care about the result as long as their team is getting in and having a go.

Last season we looked like deer in headlights apart from a couple of games and up until the second Sydney game this year it was the same. Since that pathetic game where we didn't have a shot on goal something has clicked and we are at least creating chances galore, and getting a few in.

Of course we are far from perfect and the defence is still leaky but I am leaving stadiums now having enjoyed the match which wasn't the case over the last 24 months.

There are still games where were not putting in WSW away parts of last week any game vs Sydney. But for the most part the team shows fight and causes teams trouble with our pace which is a welcome change

[Grimario]

People don't seem to realise how hard it is to sign people in january unless you want to pay stupid money or sign someone out of contract who may not be good enough.

*cough* Ugarkovic *cough* Nordstrand *cough*


Maybe people just don't want to play for Jones? Or maybe his scouting network is "blokes I saw in the A-League or watched in Adelaide"?

[StannyCFCJET]

*cough* Ugarkovic *cough* Nordstrand *cough*


Maybe people just don't want to play for Jones? Or maybe his scouting network is "blokes I saw in the A-League or watched in Adelaide"?

Weren't they both off contract??

[Grimario]

Weren't they both off contract??

Isn't that irrelevant? Your point was "off contract and not good enough".

Maybe Jones is just really shit at identifying people he wants to play for him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Isn't that irrelevant? Your point was "off contract and not good enough".

Maybe Jones is just really shit at identifying people he wants to play for him.

Maybe but we haven't seen enough to comment on that

[Grimario]

Maybe but we haven't seen enough to comment on that

Haven't seen enough of what? His signings are Johnny K and Allwright, both local Adelaide players, and an old Australian keeper who doesn't appear to have touched a ball outside of training since 2011.


I see where others are coming from... Jones gets a free pass but Miller who dug us out of the shit in the first place is the devil.

[StannyCFCJET]

Haven't seen enough of what? His signings are Johnny K and Allwright, both local Adelaide players, and an old Australian keeper who doesn't appear to have touched a ball outside of training since 2011.


I see where others are coming from... Jones gets a free pass but Miller who dug us out of the shit in the first place is the devil.

Not really Miller was both praised and criticized when warranted. He did alot of good things but he's not the best weve ever had. And of Jones's signings weve only seen Johnny who looks good and a tiny bit of Sawyer where its too early to tell. Jones also gets the same praise and criticism when warranted

[cobra23]

Not really Miller was both praised and criticized when warranted. He did alot of good things but he's not the best weve ever had. And of Jones's signings weve only seen Johnny who looks good and a tiny bit of Sawyer where its too early to tell. Jones also gets the same praise and criticism when warranted

all jonesy had to do was to sign his old flame KATIE GILL in the transfer window. she can score goals..
thats his only down fall

[borat]

Griffo is the football operation manager and does much of the negotiations. You gonna extend this pathetic cycle of blame to him too?
Nah you are right......no one is to blame. Everyone tries super hard and they are nice blokes. Carry on

[borat]

On the flip side. When did Miller become the Messiah? In my opinion you put Jones v Miller and they've achieved on par with eachother. No more no less. Squad ability is probably the same. You can't honestly say Jone's is sooo much better etc.
Maybe its just a good thing that people are getting behind the team. It was starting to happen under Miller. Things were coming good. He ****ed up. We move on and now it's starting to happen under Jones.

Squad ability the same......ffs what are you smoking.

Brown, Nabbout, Hoole all added to the first team plus Ugarkovic and Nordstrand only came onboard in a January.

Seriously deluded if you can't accept we have a far better squad.

[Wilso8948]

Squad ability the same......ffs what are you smoking.

Brown, Nabbout, Hoole all added to the first team plus Ugarkovic and Nordstrand only came onboard in a January.

Seriously deluded if you can't accept we have a far better squad.
I can be deluded at times. But you had a quality no.10 in Leonardo. No matter how many people bagged him. Triff showed much more then Kokko. Leaky G, Biraz. Its much the same squad. Maybe one or two improvements.
On the flip side Jones had a horror run with long term injuries to first team players. Much more then what Miller experienced.
Accept it. Miller's squad was mid to low table. At this stage I'd say Jone's is much of the same.

[MFKS]

Squad ability the same......ffs what are you smoking.

Brown, Nabbout, Hoole all added to the first team plus Ugarkovic and Nordstrand only came onboard in a January.

Seriously deluded if you can't accept we have a far better squad.

Same level of ability the squads from last year to this???

What you smoking??

Birraz
Leaky G
Leonardo
Devon Head

All quality players

Other than Birraz Millertime got **** * all out of them

He also got less out of Triff and Alivodic than he should have

Same squads???

Last year's squad to me had better quality to it individual wise
This year's squad has more depth but an even ness to it

End of day this is still a fact
Jones is using all Miller's squad at this point in time

He has us playing exciting football

Millertime never played anything as exciting in the 12 months he was here.

Jones 1-0

Can't wait to see what we doing in anything year or so time under Jones when he has had an opportunity to really get us playing his way with signings and a pre season getting the club working on his tactics methods


Quite frankly I couldn't give a **** if we make the semis or not

I just enjoying my football team playing at the moment

Something that your boy Millertime never understood

The concept of having a ****ing go

[StannyCFCJET]

Same level of ability the squads from last year to this???

What you smoking??

Birraz
Leaky G
Leonardo
Devon Head

All quality players

Other than Birraz Millertime got **** * all out of them

He also got less out of Triff and Alivodic than he should have

Same squads???

Last year's squad to me had better quality to it individual wise
This year's squad has more depth but an even ness to it

End of day this is still a fact
Jones is using all Miller's squad at this point in time

He has us playing exciting football

Millertime never played anything as exciting in the 12 months he was here.

Jones 1-0

Can't wait to see what we doing in anything year or so time under Jones when he has had an opportunity to really get us playing his way with signings and a pre season getting the club working on his tactics methods


Quite frankly I couldn't give a **** if we make the semis or not

I just enjoying my football team playing at the moment

Something that your boy Millertime never understood

The concept of having a ****ing go

Your once again right on the money member. I may get angry and frustrated when we lose but 80% of the time this team doesn't drop heads and fights till the end. When is the last time we've been able to say this??? probably Brankos last season in charge and before that the GF winning season

[Tommyjet]

I've never had him up as the messiah but he didn't do a lot wrong & had us going in the right direction after our most disastrous season. I guess that's my point though - why was Miller bagged on so much when Jones is seemingly given a free pass?

I thought jones was copping more than enough until we turned the corner with the away win at Perth. I agree he isn't the perfect fit( some subs are highly questionable, playing Mullen at rb, kokko situation) but I'm not gonna stay bitter about Scott getting sacked and taking it out on a bloke who finally has us playing something good that will produce success if the defence can be sorted out. By defence I also include dm's in that.

[Wilso8948]

So I said squad is reasonably the same.

Borat calls me deluded and high and says Miller's squad was far below average

Member calls Borat deluded and high and insist Miller's squad was far superior and he failed with them.

There's a pole in the somewhere If Slobs is added.

[steve136]

Miller sucked.

Jones sucks.

Gypo CEO sucks.

Save your energy people.

[borat]

So I said squad is reasonably the same.

Borat calls me deluded and high and says Miller's squad was far below average

Member calls Borat deluded and high and insist Miller's squad was far superior and he failed with them.

There's a pole in the somewhere If Slobs is added.

Agree its a circular argument.

So lets see where we end up on that table at seasons end. Out of the 8 games left we have 2 games against CCM, 1 against Adelaide and 1 against the Nix so there should be no excuses not to finish the season strongly. By your logic the squads are similar in quality so equalling last years points tally should be easy.

My tip.......we lose to Victory this week and the pressure starts to mount with the CCM looking like they are becoming stronger. It could go either way. If Jones can get the side firing and into the finals then I will tip my hat to him. If Lawrie can sign anyone decent who stays longer than 2 weeks then I will tip my hat to him as well.

I have been a Jets supporter since day 1 and would rather my team was back in the finals. I don't see it with the current setup but time will tell.

[Grimario]

We are going to get destroyed by the scum and they are going to sneak into the 6.

[borat]

We are going to get destroyed by the scum and they are going to sneak into the 6.

I would never suggest that and be negative and all........ Am happy for Mr Jones to show his worth and see us into the finals

[Bon]

all jonesy had to do was to sign his old flame katie gill in the transfer window. She can score goals..
Thats his only down fall

boooooom...

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Petratos just revealed as Ulsan player. Passed the medical. Thanks for the split of the 300k, I guess.

If we ever play him (HAHA like we'd made the ACL) or he comes back to any other A-league club. Someone better break his fkin legs.

Dog.

[StannyCFCJET]

Petratos just revealed as Ulsan player. Passed the medical. Thanks for the split of the 300k, I guess.

If we ever play him (HAHA like we'd made the ACL) or he comes back to any other A-league club. Someone better break his fkin legs.

Dog.

As far as Im aware weve got first dibs if he returns to the Aleague and we cant show him too much hate his brother is still coming to the club

[The Camel]

As far as Im aware weve got first dibs if he returns to the Aleague and we cant show him too much hate his brother is still coming to the club

****ing George Weah's cousin equivalent. He was signed purely to get Dimi over the line. We have effectively just signed another Brennan, Pacevevic etc as he is shite

[Roundball Enthusiast]

As far as Im aware weve got first dibs if he returns to the Aleague and we cant show him too much hate his brother is still coming to the club

We get stuck with the seconds. Oh yay.

[StannyCFCJET]

****ing George Weah's cousin equivalent. He was signed purely to get Dimi over the line. We have effectively just signed another Brennan, Pacevevic etc as he is shite

Have you actually seen him play or train?? If so then ill refer to your judgement if not lets put our toys back in the pram till he actually arrives at the club

[StannyCFCJET]

We get stuck with the seconds. Oh yay.

We had seconds we Griffo and how did that turn out??

[The Camel]

Played some minutes for Perth early this season. He was dogshit and is now nowhere near the matchday squads now

[StannyCFCJET]

Played some minutes for Perth early this season. He was dogshit and is now nowhere near the matchday squads now

Fair enough hopefully a fresh start can help him like its helped Nabbout. Ill give him a few games before I judge him provided Jones gives him a fair chance

[borat]

Have you actually seen him play or train?? If so then ill refer to your judgement if not lets put our toys back in the pram till he actually arrives at the club

That statement reeks of that you haven't actually seen him play either. So have you? Because he has played for PG you know and stunk it up. Ask any PG supporter on their opinion of his performances.

He is 18 and maybe there is improvement somewhere but in the occasions he has played for PG he has been shown to be well below standard.

[StannyCFCJET]

That statement reeks of that you haven't actually seen him play either. So have you? Because he has played for PG you know and stunk it up. Ask any PG supporter on their opinion of his performances.

He is 18 and maybe there is improvement somewhere but in the occasions he has played for PG he has been shown to be well below standard.

I was going off a Jets supporter mate on facebook who told me they'ed seen him play and he was really good

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I was going off a Jets supporter mate on facebook who told me they'ed seen him play and he was really good

He wont see first grade time here. Especially if we actually sign a striker in the off season.

[StannyCFCJET]

He wont see first grade time here. Especially if we actually sign a striker in the off season.

No if Signing a Good Striker is a MUST.

[borat]

I was going off a Jets supporter mate on facebook who told me they'ed seen him play and he was really good

Fair enough. I would be surprised that anyone who has seen him play would say anything other than he was terrible in those performances. But only young so will see what he can do. Will not be surprised to see him released in year after playing only a few matches off the bench.

[MFKS]

Petratos just revealed as Ulsan player. Passed the medical. Thanks for the split of the 300k, I guess.

If we ever play him (HAHA like we'd made the ACL) or he comes back to any other A-league club. Someone better break his fkin legs.

Dog.
Why the anger??

To me we dodged a bullet
He is OK player but 3 years??

To get some coin out of it is good.

Better than getting ****ed over like we usually do


Shame we didn't have him signed for a little longer to help with next year's recruitment of other good quality players

Ohh well back to square 1

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Think of it this way, the 150k we get from Ulsan has pretty much covered any cost of Kosta Petratos' full contract.

[Grimario]

Think of it this way, the 150k we get from Ulsan has pretty much covered any cost of Kosta Petratos' full contract.

However it will mean we have 150k in cap space we can't use, right? Whether the 150k covers him or not.

Anyway, we need to have X players under a certain age and given how shit some of ours have been, don't see why we can't import a shit one like Kosta on the cheap.

[borat]

However it will mean we have 150k in cap space we can't use, right? Whether the 150k covers him or not.

Anyway, we need to have X players under a certain age and given how shit some of ours have been, don't see why we can't import a shit one like Kosta on the cheap.

Unfortunately we already had 3 x u20s signed up. Its not the 150k, or the 55K for that matter I would pray they only signed an 18 year old to min wage. Its taking up a squad space thats the problem. Otherwise you then get stuck with the Cooper and Pavicevic's that do nothing for the team but stop us recruiting others.

[borat]

I will say this, if we used the 150k to upgrade, to say Vidosic, then thats good business. Tony Rallis reckons he is lining up a replacement for us so will see how that works out. Rallis also said we knew when we signed him that the Korean interest was there. So maybe Lawrie has a back up plan and hasn't been caught with his pants down as it looks.

[rhysd]

I will say this, if we used the 150k to upgrade, to say Vidosic, then thats good business. Tony Rallis reckons he is lining up a replacement for us so will see how that works out. Rallis also said we knew when we signed him that the Korean interest was there. So maybe Lawrie has a back up plan and hasn't been caught with his pants down as it looks.

Maybe he just wanted to net the easy $150k hahah.

Patience.

[plague]

Miller sucked.

Jones sucks.

Gypo CEO sucks.

Save your energy people.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Al7O9Xfv--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/t8fzn1aog4xdymbmdxip.gif

Listen up people Steve is giving you a good look at how to properly support this club. Get with the program.

[q-money]

fuuuuck

[WolfMan]

Petratos just revealed as Ulsan player. Passed the medical. Thanks for the split of the 300k, I guess.

If we ever play him (HAHA like we'd made the ACL) or he comes back to any other A-league club. Someone better break his fkin legs.

Dog.

Wow. That's some strong stuff.

What if you had a job offer, tentatively accepted it on the proviso you could still negotiate with another company?

And the second contract offer comes in and it's 3 or 4x the salary you signed off on. Of course you take the higher offer.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or imbecile.

He never even pulled on a Jets shirt, he owes us nothing

[Jetmaster]

If it was real estate it would be called "flipping" - we have held a property for a week, paid nothing and made a $150,000 profit.

Good business.

[Jeterpool]

If it was real estate it would be called "flipping" - we have held a property for a week, paid nothing and made a $150,000 profit.

Good business.

Pretty much! Great analogy.

I don't expect much scouting would have been invested in him. No big names have moved from other clubs to sign for rivals. We've lost a few weeks negotiation time.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

If it was real estate it would be called "flipping" - we have held a property for a week, paid nothing and made a $150,000 profit.

Good business.

For us though, its like we flipped the only house we owned. Now we'll have to rush out and buy a shitter house, probably for more money.

[Macca]

Has 150k actually been mentioned anywhere? All I've seen is that we will get a "split" of the 300k.

Regardless, we've made a little profit off little investment so not the end of the world. We do now need to find another quality attacking player though. I don't think he was going to set the world on fire here but was definitely still an upgrade to the first team squad.

[De-Champ]

Has 150k actually been mentioned anywhere? All I've seen is that we will get a "split" of the 300k.

Regardless, we've made a little profit off little investment so not the end of the world. We do now need to find another quality attacking player though. I don't think he was going to set the world on fire here but was definitely still an upgrade to the first team squad.

I have no source....but I read on a website somewhere that the fee would be split evenly.....whatever that means???

[cobra23]

I have no source....but I read on a website somewhere that the fee would be split evenly.....whatever that means???

Brisbane get 299k we get 1k to cover the gypo CEO's loss of canned baked beans through those couple weeks of negotiating while he was
up in brisbane in his upgraded camper van , now turned RV

[RAM]

For us though, its like we flipped the only house we owned. Now we'll have to rush out and buy a shitter house, probably for more money.

yep :rof:

[De-Champ]

Brisbane get 299k we get 1k to cover the gypo CEO's loss of canned baked beans through those couple weeks of negotiating while he was
up in brisbane in his upgraded camper van , now turned RV

Probably correct. As what fee is meant to be shared evenly. The transfer fee?? the fee agreed between Jets and Roar? Some other fee??

[rhysd]

Accessible via twitter yeah? Just ask lawrie and be done with it.

[StannyCFCJET]

Accessible via twitter yeah? Just ask lawrie and be done with it.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner

[The Dunster]

People seem to be forgetting that the ATO will be taking a share of that money as well.

[evanhayes5]

Hearing that Haliti is going to Sydney United, not sure if its now or at seasons end

[Grimario]

People seem to be forgetting that the ATO will be taking a share of that money as well.

Nah... club running at a loss. I've played FM, Jets never get a tax bill.

[De-Champ]

Nah... club running at a loss. I've played FM, Jets never get a tax bill.

Irrelevant... GST may have to be paid on it. GST does not depend on making profit or loss.

[Grimario]

Irrelevant... GST may have to be paid on it. GST does not depend on making profit or loss.

I quoted FM as the source of truth... and you are talking about how relevant stuff is? :rof:

[StannyCFCJET]

I quoted FM as the source of truth... and you are talking about how relevant stuff is? :rof:

FM never lies always trust FM. Hoole scores 20 goals a season on FM seems legit

[borat]

If it was real estate it would be called "flipping" - we have held a property for a week, paid nothing and made a $150,000 profit.

Good business.


Its only good for us if we spend the money and doesn't end up in Martin Lee's back pocket. Also not good for us if we can't sign a decent replacement

[Grimario]

FM never lies always trust FM. Hoole scores 20 goals a season on FM seems legit

You lie though... You've already told me how bad you are with the Jets :gent:

[Tommyjet]

Has 150k actually been mentioned anywhere? All I've seen is that we will get a "split" of the 300k.

Regardless, we've made a little profit off little investment so not the end of the world. We do now need to find another quality attacking player though. I don't think he was going to set the world on fire here but was definitely still an upgrade to the first team squad.
his agent is on that soccer stoppage time radio show and mentioned it on that

[Jetmaster]

Irrelevant... GST may have to be paid on it. GST does not depend on making profit or loss.

GST not payable on exports...:tongue:


Exported goods are GST-free if they are exported from Australia within 60 days of the first of the following two events:

- the supplier receives any payment for the goods

[StannyCFCJET]

You lie though... You've already told me how bad you are with the Jets :gent:

it was after i was sacked next season he scored 20

[borat]

So Vidosic is likely to replace Ali Abbas at Pohang Steelers on a 400k contract. Rather than go after another AM I would rather we re-sign Hoole and chase a Visa 9 & 6.

[De-Champ]

GST not payable on exports...:tongue:

Depends how paid/received.

If eg $300,000 paid to roar and then roar pay half or whatever% to jets then GST is payable on jets %

[Wilso8948]

Partalu anyone?

[StannyCFCJET]

Partalu anyone?

hasnt he rejected us before?

[Jeterpool]

hasnt he rejected us before?

Fark if that was criteria I reckon we'd be close to offering me a contract.

[StannyCFCJET]

Fark if that was criteria I reckon we'd be close to offering me a contract.

Youve rejected the Jets?? Nup never believe that

[Jeterpool]

Youve rejected the Jets?? Nup never believe that

Ha ha
Haven't had the opportunity. They aren't desperate enough to offer me a contract yet.

[RAM]

Poortaloo is quality. Sounds like he is continuing his chase of Asian coin though...already turned down "A-League offers"

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Poortaloo is quality. Sounds like he is continuing his chase of Asian coin though...already turned down "A-League offers"

We can pay him in Asian coin if he wants. Wouldn't be hard for Lee, probably easier than exchanging it tbh.

[borat]

Poortaloo is quality. Sounds like he is continuing his chase of Asian coin though...already turned down "A-League offers"

He is pretty similar to Ugarkovic though. Not sure the 2 could play together. I would rather persist with the younger Stevie UG

[furns]

He is pretty similar to Ugarkovic though. Not sure the 2 could play together. I would rather persist with the younger Stevie UG
Agreed, although we may be looking for a replacement for Stevie sooner rather than later
Am hoping he stays around, but I am thinking that some offers will arrive for him in the offseason

[Macca]

I don't think Ugar has had the best season to be honest. I'm still waiting for him to recapture the form from last season and early/pre season

[Tommyjet]

He is pretty similar to Ugarkovic though. Not sure the 2 could play together. I would rather persist with the younger Stevie UG
Ugarkovic is a smallish box to box mid. Paartalu is your jedinak type who sits and controls the mids and breaks up play and only occasionally pushes forward. 2 different types of mids that would compliment each other very well.
Argument redundant because Eric will chase Asia cash for a couple of more years

[borat]

Ugarkovic is a smallish box to box mid. Paartalu is your jedinak type who sits and controls the mids and breaks up play and only occasionally pushes forward. 2 different types of mids that would compliment each other very well.
Argument redundant because Eric will chase Asia cash for a couple of more years

Thats the game Jones is trying to force on him, not his natural game. His best games are when he sits infront of the defence and controls it. When he does this his passing and distribution is sublime.

[MFKS]

Ugarkovic is a smallish box to box mid. Paartalu is your jedinak type who sits and controls the mids and breaks up play and only occasionally pushes forward. 2 different types of mids that would compliment each other very well.
Argument redundant because Eric will chase Asia cash for a couple of more years

Your argument is not redundant
You are right

Paartallu controls the midfield

Which is exactly what we are not doing and exactly what we NEED

The EXACT thing Stevie U needs to develop and shine
A competent partner to teach him


THROW the CASH at the bloke

[RAM]

Ugarkovic is a smallish box to box mid. Paartalu is your jedinak type who sits and controls the mids and breaks up play and only occasionally pushes forward. 2 different types of mids that would compliment each other very well.
Argument redundant because Eric will chase Asia cash for a couple of more years

this

[RAM]

Your argument is not redundant
You are right

Paartallu controls the midfield

Which is exactly what we are not doing and exactly what we NEED

The EXACT thing Stevie U needs to develop and shine
A competent partner to teach him


THROW the CASH at the bloke

we don't throw cash

[Jeterpool]

we don't throw cash

We throw mangoes?

[Frodo]

we don't throw cash

Well throw whatever we have to throw around at him.

Swimming Pools.
Thai Escorts.
Some LED Downlights.
Did Tinkler leave any coal laying around the place?
Someone get the man a Jet Shaped Hat!


Would be the exact type of player we need to start to control the ball better. Counter attacking is great and all but we need more than one way to play of we are going to make the 6 and stay there.

[Wilso8948]

Well throw whatever we have to throw around at him.

Swimming Pools.
Thai Escorts.
Some LED Downlights.
Did Tinkler leave any coal laying around the place?
Someone get the man a Jet Shaped Hat!


Would be the exact type of player we need to start to control the ball better. Counter attacking is great and all but we need more than one way to play of we are going to make the 6 and stay there.

We are good at throwing abuse?

[matty]

Chinese Messi goin to china before end of the month, whowin is what I'm hearing

[furns]

Chinese Messi goin to china before end of the month, whowin is what I'm hearing
Really? So you have fox too? :wink:

[white city]

We are good at throwing abuse?

We should be throwing everything we can besides the abuse at Milos Ninkovic. Exactly the player we need!

[Jeterpool]

Have heard from Furns, who heard it from Cockerill, that Ma Leilei is subject of an offer Liaoning Whowin.

[plague]

Have heard from Furns, who heard it from Cockerill, that Ma Leilei is subject of an offer Liaoning Whowin.

I read that somewhere too.

[cobra23]

Well throw whatever we have to throw around at him.

Swimming Pools.
Thai Escorts.
Some LED Downlights.
Did Tinkler leave any coal laying around the place?
Someone get the man a Jet Shaped Hat!


Would be the exact type of player we need to start to control the ball better. Counter attacking is great and all but we need more than one way to play of we are going to make the 6 and stay there.

Just throw eric bananas, he will be sure to sign. ERIC IS BANANA MAN

[StannyCFCJET]

Have heard from Furns, who heard it from Cockerill, that Ma Leilei is subject of an offer Liaoning Whowin.

Wasn't their an article from Ma Lei Lei few weeks backs where he said he could earn more money playing in china but wanted to do well in a overseas league to get into the Chinese national team. Could be wrong though.

[WolfMan]

Wasn't their an article from Ma Lei Lei few weeks backs where he said he could earn more money playing in china but wanted to do well in a overseas league to get into the Chinese national team. Could be wrong though.

Might not be about what Ma wants, rather we can make some money from this deal.

Pure profit, whatever the fee