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pv4
10-04-2017, 09:42 AM
ADELAIDE UNITED
Eugene Galekovic
Ryan Kitto
Iacopo La Rocca
Dylan McGowan
Kim Jae-sung
Eli Babalj

BRISBANE ROAR
Thomas Broich
Jamie Maclaren
Avraam Papadopoulos

CENTRAL COAST MARINERS
Scott Galloway
Roy O’Donovan
Jacob Poscoliero
Mickael Tavares

MELBOURNE CITY
Luke Brattan*
Anthony Caceres*

MELBOURNE VICTORY
Fahid Ben Khalfallah
James Troisi

NEWCASTLE JETS
Labinot Haliti
Andrew Hoole
Mateo Poljak
Tomislav Arcaba

PERTH GLORY
Diego Castro
Dino Djulbic
Nebojsa Marinkovic
Mitchell Oxborrow
Liam Reddy
Jamal Reiners
Josh Risdon
Rhys Williams

SYDNEY FC
Alex Brosque
David Carney
Bobo
Milos Ninkovic

WELLINGTON PHOENIX
Roly Bonevacia
Shane Smeltz

WESTERN SYDNEY WANDERERS
Nico Martinez*
Kearyn Baccus
Dimas Delgado
Scott Neville
Mitch Nichols
Terry Antonis*

I wouldn't be unhappy with any of the above.

Frodo
10-04-2017, 09:45 AM
Mahazi??? he's almost as bad as Kanta from what ive seen of him

My thinking on that one was. Kanta, who is on high wages compared to his output, isn't resigned and we give Mahazi a chance, on low wages, to start fresh. He is as good as Kanta off the bench and we will free up space elsewhere. That said, i have only seen a couple of his matches and he wasn't exactly rubbish. Built solid and has a decent engine. Kanta doesn't have any legs left in him.

Frodo
10-04-2017, 09:47 AM
I wouldn't be unhappy with any of the above.

Except for that Ginger fella from FC...

I'd say that a lot of those aren't upgrades to some of our boys other than mentality.

pv4
10-04-2017, 09:49 AM
I'd say that a lot of those aren't upgrades to some of our boys other than mentality.

A massive upgrade then..

StannyCFCJET
10-04-2017, 09:55 AM
Alright, different topic. List of off-contract players. Who are you signing and who are you re-signing? * = Loan player

ADELAIDE UNITED
Players off-contract (16): Marcelo Carrusca, Jordan Elsey, Eugene Galekovic, John Hall, Ryan Kitto, Iacopo La Rocca, Jesse Makarounas, Marc Marino, Dylan McGowan, George Mells, Nikola Mileusnic, Mark Ochieng, Benjamin Warland, Kim Jae-sung, Eli Babalj, Baba Diawara
Marquees: Eugene Galekovic, Marcelo Carrusca (both off-contract)

BRISBANE ROAR
Players off-contract (10): Manuel Arana, Thomas Broich, Joe Caletti, Joseph Katebian, Nathan Konstandopoulos, Jamie Maclaren, Jacob Pepper, Mark Rodic, Michael Theo, Avraam Papadopoulos

CENTRAL COAST MARINERS
Players off-contract (14): Jake Adelson, Kwabena Appiah, Josh Bingham, Jacques Faty, Fabio Ferreira, Scott Galloway, Paul Izzo, Nick Montgomery, Ivan Necevski, Michael Neill, Roy O’Donovan, Jacob Poscoliero, Mickael Tavares

MELBOURNE CITY
Players off-contract (10): Christian Cavallo, Braedyn Crowley, Corey Gameiro, Steve Kuzmanovski, Josh Rose, Thomas Sorensen, Luke Brattan*, Anthony Caceres*, Nicolas Colazo*

MELBOURNE VICTORY
Players off-contract (10): Matt Acton, Nicholas Ansell, Alan Baro, Fahid Ben Khalfallah, Alastair Bray, George Howard, Rashid Mahazi, Lucas Spinella, James Troisi

NEWCASTLE JETS
Players off-contract (13): Kristian Brymora, Labinot Haliti, Andrew Hoole, Ben Kantarovski, Ben Kennedy, Lei Lei Ma, Daniel Mullen, Morten Nordstrand, Mateo Poljak, Iain Fyfe, Tomislav Arcaba, Joel Allwright

Players on-contract (16): Jason Hoffman, Nigel Boogaard, Daniel Geogievski, Steven Ugarkovic, Aleksandr Kokko, Wayne Brown, Ivan Vujica (Youth), Andrew Nabbout, Nick Cowburn, Kosta Petratos, Jack Duncan, Daniel Alessi (Youth), Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut, John Koutroumbis, Mario Shabow (Youth)

PERTH GLORY
Players off-contract (15): Diego Castro, Joel Chianese, Dino Djulbic, Nicholas Feely, Richard Garcia, Nebojsa Marinkovic, Mitchell Oxborrow, Liam Reddy, Jamal Reiners, Josh Risdon, Jordan Thurtell, Marc Warren, Aryn Williams, Rhys Williams, Lucian Goian
Marquees: Diego Castro (off-contract)

SYDNEY FC
Players off-contract (13): Bai Antoniou, George Blackwood, Alex Brosque, Aaron Calver, David Carney, Bobo, Milos Dimitrijevic, Filip Holosko, Charles Lokolingoy, Milos Ninkovic, Matthew Simon, Riley Woodcock, Bernie Ibini*, Jordy Buijs
Marquees: Filip Holosko, Bobo (both off-contract)

WELLINGTON PHOENIX
Players off-contract (11): Roly Bonevacia, Lewis Italiano, Vince Lia, Benjamin Litfin, Ryan Lowry, Glen Moss, Alex Rodriguez, Oliver Sail, Shane Smeltz, Jacob Tratt, Hamish Watson

WESTERN SYDNEY WANDERERS
Players off-contract (14): Nico Martinez*, Kearyn Baccus, Shannon Cole, Dimas Delgado, Brendan Hamill, Emilio Martinez, Scott Neville, Mitch Nichols, Bruno Pinatares, Jerrad Tyson, Liam Youlley, Terry Antonis*, Ryan Griffiths

Take your pick of the bold guys

Frodo
10-04-2017, 10:06 AM
A massive upgrade then..

Yeah, i realise that didn't translate well into text. But yes, mentally our players have gone back into their Stubbins shaped shells. Which isn't great for me cause I still think overall our squad should be able to finish in the top 6. The last half of the season has either exposed massive weaknesses in our players or shown just how poorly run and managed our club is. It's probably all both/3 of them.

Tommyjet
10-04-2017, 11:42 AM
Kruse and holland left out of squad again at their chinese club! Get onto it Lee, mckinna etc

MonkeyKplunk
10-04-2017, 11:49 AM
I think Kruse would be wayyyyy outside the price range a wooden spoon club could afford.

Although, I guess the Cahill rule still exists.

StannyCFCJET
10-04-2017, 11:51 AM
I think Kruse would be wayyyyy outside the price range a wooden spoon club could afford.

Although, I guess the Cahill rule still exists.

Unless your surname is Cahil you dont apply for that rule.

Tommyjet
10-04-2017, 12:01 PM
I think Kruse would be wayyyyy outside the price range a wooden spoon club could afford.

Although, I guess the Cahill rule still exists.

I dont think any of us really know how much lee has or is wiling to shell out on players just yet.

StannyCFCJET
10-04-2017, 12:06 PM
I dont think any of us really know how much lee has or is wiling to shell out on players just yet.

If he wants ACL in 3 years, He will need to spend like Victory and Sydney spend

Grimario
10-04-2017, 12:07 PM
If he wants ACL in 3 years, He will need to spend like Victory and Sydney spend

Sign Tarek and Brandan, that's two ACL's in one year, already ahead of the schedule.

StannyCFCJET
10-04-2017, 12:13 PM
Sign Tarek and Brandan, that's two ACL's in one year, already ahead of the schedule.

:lulzturtle::lulzturtle::lulzturtle::lulzturtle: Gamerio to complete the lot.

Guerny
10-04-2017, 12:42 PM
Players on-contract (16): Jason Hoffman, Nigel Boogaard, Daniel Geogievski, Steven Ugarkovic, Aleksandr Kokko, Wayne Brown, Ivan Vujica (Youth), Andrew Nabbout, Nick Cowburn, Kosta Petratos, Jack Duncan, Daniel Alessi (Youth), Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut, John Koutroumbis, Mario Shabow (Youth)

Wow...just wow... So we've only got 7 squad spots left.
and we need at least 11 new starters (yes i wouldnt start any of that chaff, especially after yesterday).

MonkeyKplunk
10-04-2017, 12:42 PM
I dont think any of us really know how much lee has or is wiling to shell out on players just yet.

The problem with a billionaire businessman, is you know he didn't get there by just throwing cash around like he's in a Hip Hop video.

StannyCFCJET
10-04-2017, 12:47 PM
Players on-contract (16): Jason Hoffman, Nigel Boogaard, Daniel Geogievski, Steven Ugarkovic, Aleksandr Kokko, Wayne Brown, Ivan Vujica (Youth), Andrew Nabbout, Nick Cowburn, Kosta Petratos, Jack Duncan, Daniel Alessi (Youth), Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut, John Koutroumbis, Mario Shabow (Youth)

Wow...just wow... So we've only got 7 squad spots left.
and we need at least 11 new starters (yes i wouldnt start any of that chaff, especially after yesterday).

Those three players can leave. Boogs can stay if he accepts a much lower wage

Grimario
10-04-2017, 12:51 PM
Players on-contract (16): Jason Hoffman, Nigel Boogaard, Daniel Geogievski, Steven Ugarkovic, Aleksandr Kokko, Wayne Brown, Ivan Vujica (Youth), Andrew Nabbout, Nick Cowburn, Kosta Petratos, Jack Duncan, Daniel Alessi (Youth), Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut, John Koutroumbis, Mario Shabow (Youth)

Wow...just wow... So we've only got 7 squad spots left.
and we need at least 11 new starters (yes i wouldnt start any of that chaff, especially after yesterday).

That's assuming Vujica and Alessi still qualify for youth contracts next season, right?

MFKS
10-04-2017, 01:08 PM
Players on-contract (16): Jason Hoffman, Nigel Boogaard, Daniel Geogievski, Steven Ugarkovic, Aleksandr Kokko, Wayne Brown, Ivan Vujica (Youth), Andrew Nabbout, Nick Cowburn, Kosta Petratos, Jack Duncan, Daniel Alessi (Youth), Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut, John Koutroumbis, Mario Shabow (Youth)

Wow...just wow... So we've only got 7 squad spots left.
and we need at least 11 new starters (yes i wouldnt start any of that chaff, especially after yesterday).

I backing we get a few of those under contract out of the club.

Kokko Clut Boogaard Brown Jackson and Cowburn all need to go

Hoffman may not be much use but he more Newy than any bloke at the club

pv4
10-04-2017, 01:09 PM
That's assuming Vujica and Alessi still qualify for youth contracts next season, right?

Those contracts are always 2 year deals iirc.

Frodo
10-04-2017, 01:17 PM
Realistically Kokko and Clut could go. No one will want Boogs so we will just have to try to not need him. Brown will only go if we pay him out, which sucks.

Tommyjet
10-04-2017, 01:38 PM
The problem with a billionaire businessman, is you know he didn't get there by just throwing cash around like he's in a Hip Hop video.

Very true. Lee stated this season would be a balancing the books type of season and then progressively spend more.
To get any sort of decent crowd number there next season he is gonna have to bring in some major attractions.

RAM
10-04-2017, 01:55 PM
If he wants ACL in 3 years, He will need to spend like Victory and Sydney spend

Neither of which have gone very far at all in the ACL.

StannyCFCJET
10-04-2017, 01:58 PM
Neither of which have gone very far at all in the ACL.

But theve made finals and won the league.

RAM
10-04-2017, 02:00 PM
But theve made finals and won the league.

Touche. But some of us are old enough to remember us doing that as well.:rof:

Mark325
10-04-2017, 02:56 PM
hopefully jones doesnt sign players to ridiculously long deals that will **** us in the long term

MonkeyKplunk
10-04-2017, 05:09 PM
Very true. Lee stated this season would be a balancing the books type of season and then progressively spend more.
To get any sort of decent crowd number there next season he is gonna have to bring in some major attractions.

Like carnival rides?
Other than the ones one the field that is

PC14
10-04-2017, 05:42 PM
Kruse and Holland struggling for game time with China's 3 foreign player rule.

MFKS
10-04-2017, 06:29 PM
Kruse and Holland struggling for game time with China's 3 foreign player rule.

Wouldn't want either of them

Holland done nothing in Adelaide


Kruse FFS we already have enough weak ****s who don't deliver under pressure already
Why pay big $$ for one

Grimario
10-04-2017, 06:32 PM
Kruse and Holland struggling for game time with China's 3 foreign player rule.

Kruse and Holland indifferent to game time whilst getting paid the equivalent of an entire A-League career annually.

OmeletteDuFromage
10-04-2017, 09:48 PM
Players on-contract (16): Jason Hoffman, Nigel Boogaard, Daniel Geogievski, Steven Ugarkovic, Aleksandr Kokko, Wayne Brown, Ivan Vujica (Youth), Andrew Nabbout, Nick Cowburn, Kosta Petratos, Jack Duncan, Daniel Alessi (Youth), Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut, John Koutroumbis, Mario Shabow (Youth)

Wow...just wow... So we've only got 7 squad spots left.
and we need at least 11 new starters (yes i wouldnt start any of that chaff, especially after yesterday).

Isnt Kosta Petratos a youth deal aswell?

RAM
11-04-2017, 12:38 PM
Wouldn't want either of them

Holland done nothing in Adelaide


Kruse FFS we already have enough weak ****s who don't deliver under pressure already
Why pay big $$ for one

Kruse is better than any winger in the league. He just happens to be a soft **** as well.

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 12:42 PM
All we should should ask is who would they replace in the starting line up and are they better?? Hoole/Nabbout and Stevie/U/Poijak/Brown/Kanta and the answer to both is YES

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 02:28 PM
If we had free range of removing anyone from this current squad Id only keep the two Keepers, Cowburn, Vjuica, Hoffman, Jackson Stevie U, Nabbout, Clut, Koutroumbis and Sawyer. Maybe Alessi but I dont know anything about him really and we havent seen him play.


Everyone I named minus Duncan and Stevie U would be squad/bench players

The Dunster
11-04-2017, 02:32 PM
If we had free range of removing anyone from this current squad Id only keep the two Keepers, Cowburn, Vjuica, Hoffman, Jackson Stevie U, Nabbout, Clut, Koutroumbis and Sawyer. Maybe Alessi but I dont know anything about him really and we havent seen him play.


Everyone I named minus Duncan and Stevie U would be squad/bench players

Cowburns not good enough - too slow and lacks aggression / mongrel
Vjuica is youth standard at best
Ugga - bench at best - too inconsistent
Hoffman - acceptable. Seasoned player. Not great but works hard.
Clut - Not good enough
Koutroumbus - Youth
Sawyer - Youth - but I'd let him go.

Frodo
11-04-2017, 02:38 PM
So if we are going to sack everyone who are we going to sign to replace them on realistically? Who does Jones or even the experienced guy attract? And with what money? And with so many players getting sacked with what sort of security for the new player arriving if they know how poorly we are ran as a club?

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 02:39 PM
Cowburns not good enough - too slow and lacks aggression / mongrel
Vjuica is youth standard at best
Ugga - bench at best - too inconsistent
Hoffman - acceptable. Seasoned player. Not great but works hard.
Clut - Not good enough
Koutroumbus - Youth
Sawyer - Youth - but I'd let him go.

Ugga- cant be class IMO under a manager who helps him improve like Miller was doing.
Cowburn- is decent and Gombau thinks so as well and he's better then any other coach weve had
Vuijca- can improve based on what I saw this season
Koutrombis-^^^^^
Sawyer- has shown some potential to be worth another season as a Youth player.
Clut- I dont think weve seen enough of him consistently. Need to see him playing every to get proper judge on his ability
Hoff- I 100% agree on

This is just my opinion but we all see different things. Just wondering why you dont seem to rate Cowburn, Vujica and Clut? Dunster

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 02:41 PM
So if we are going to sack everyone who are we going to sign to replace them on realistically? Who does Jones or even the experienced guy attract? And with what money? And with so many players getting sacked with what sort of security for the new player arriving if they know how poorly we are ran as a club?

On the flip side new players must see how weve been performing and if they join the club with alot of the past players still here Surely they get the feeling they can slack off or perform rubbish some weeks with out consequences?

Jeterpool
11-04-2017, 02:41 PM
So if we are going to sack everyone who are we going to sign to replace them on realistically? Who does Jones or even the experienced guy attract? And with what money? And with so many players getting sacked with what sort of security for the new player arriving if they know how poorly we are ran as a club?

:slap:

Stop talking sense

evanhayes5
11-04-2017, 03:14 PM
If they were serious about the squad they would pay out Boogaard and Kokko from the remaining time on their contracts

Sign a visa centre back like Jacobsen, a visa number 6 like Isaias, both of these can be your marquees.

We should be pushing hard to sign Aussies abroad who are lingering in lower divisions, sell them the dream of playing for the Socceroos if they do well here.

Players like Bradden Inman, Andy Rose, Kwame Yeboah, Ryan Williams, Chris Herd, heck Mitchell Duke just scored a goal, seems to have gotten over his injury

MFKS
11-04-2017, 03:15 PM
Ugga- cant be class IMO under a manager who helps him improve like Miller was doing.
Cowburn- is decent and Gombau thinks so as well and he's better then any other coach weve had
Vuijca- can improve based on what I saw this season
Koutrombis-^^^^^
Sawyer- has shown some potential to be worth another season as a Youth player.
Clut- I dont think weve seen enough of him consistently. Need to see him playing every to get proper judge on his ability
Hoff- I 100% agree on

This is just my opinion but we all see different things. Just wondering why you dont seem to rate Cowburn, Vujica and Clut? Dunster

So basically we are shit already

You think and our salvation lies in a pile of our lesser lights ??

Because you have just filled the squad with them that there no room left for anyone decent


Being that we are so shit. Wouldn't you think it high time we stopped signing Cluts Pataftas Gallagher's etc and stopped gambling on others failures???

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 03:16 PM
So basically we are shit already

You think and our salvation lies in a pile of our lesser lights ??

Because you have just filled the squad with them that there no room left for anyone decent


Being that we are so shit. Wouldn't you think it high time we stopped signing Cluts Pataftas Gallagher's etc and stopped gambling on others failures???

These guys would be decent squad players Fill the rest of the squad with higher quality players

Jeterpool
11-04-2017, 03:22 PM
These guys would be decent squad players Fill the rest of the squad with higher quality players

You've been playing far too much football manager.

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 03:26 PM
You've been playing far too much football manager.

And getting sacked every time :rof::rof::rof::rof: Says it all really

The Dunster
11-04-2017, 03:39 PM
Ugga- cant be class IMO under a manager who helps him improve like Miller was doing.
Cowburn- is decent and Gombau thinks so as well and he's better then any other coach weve had
Vuijca- can improve based on what I saw this season
Koutrombis-^^^^^
Sawyer- has shown some potential to be worth another season as a Youth player.
Clut- I dont think weve seen enough of him consistently. Need to see him playing every to get proper judge on his ability
Hoff- I 100% agree on

This is just my opinion but we all see different things. Just wondering why you dont seem to rate Cowburn, Vujica and Clut? Dunster

It's not that I don't rate them at all - it's that they are not good enough if we want a team capable of winning the A-league.

Let other clubs develop talent. Let us win championships.

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 03:47 PM
It's not that I don't rate them at all - it's that they are not good enough if we want a team capable of winning the A-league.

Let other clubs develop talent. Let us win championships.

Fair point. Look at Sydney their not developing talent as far as Im aware and their top of the league.

Frodo
11-04-2017, 03:53 PM
Never understood this whole 'developing players' argument. Unless your entire squad is above the age of 30 you are in some way developing talent.

We need to keep/sell players based on output:wage ratios. If you are a 19 yr old kid earning peanuts but can play off the bench than you might be worth keeping around. If you are a 28-30 yr old earning some of the biggest wages at our club but aren't in the starting 11/maybe even the bench than you should have been moved on before it got to this stage.

The jets need to look at where their wage bill is heaviest and get more bang for our buck player output wise. If we are going to win the spoon every 2nd year at least pay the minimum amount for it and subsidise drink prices at the games.

lquiquer
11-04-2017, 04:23 PM
So we could be going for Castro according to The World Game

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 04:25 PM
So we could be going for Castro according to The World Game

Castro and FBK were gonna win the league boiz!!!!!!!!

Wilso8948
11-04-2017, 04:39 PM
Whilst I love hearing the rumours and being linked with certain high quality players is awesome, I just can't shake the sense I get that it's complete amateur hour when McKinna babbles on about early stages in negotiations etc. we've made a few contacts and he comes out in the media and beats his chest about it.

Grimario
11-04-2017, 04:44 PM
Fair point. Look at Sydney their not developing talent as far as Im aware and their top of the league.

I can name a recent Socceroo call up that would argue against Sydney developing talent given he's been there since he was 15 or something.
O'Neill is a regular and only 22.
Calver and Blackwood have seen game time this year. Timotheou and Ngoy have spent time on the bench and will likely see first team football next season.

MFKS
11-04-2017, 04:48 PM
Never understood this whole 'developing players' argument. Unless your entire squad is above the age of 30 you are in some way developing talent.

We need to keep/sell players based on output:wage ratios. If you are a 19 yr old kid earning peanuts but can play off the bench than you might be worth keeping around. If you are a 28-30 yr old earning some of the biggest wages at our club but aren't in the starting 11/maybe even the bench than you should have been moved on before it got to this stage.

The jets need to look at where their wage bill is heaviest and get more bang for our buck player output wise. If we are going to win the spoon every 2nd year at least pay the minimum amount for it and subsidise drink prices at the games.

Actually that is the best idea of 2017

If we are going to be shit

Let's spend the minimum on players and just put it to other worth while projects like Jet Shaped hats, half priced beers, Giant pool party with SD as host etc

MFKS
11-04-2017, 04:53 PM
These guys would be decent squad players Fill the rest of the squad with higher quality players

That is basically the style of thinking that has got us in this rut.

It why blokes like Kanta and BK have been kept for years despite not actually developing enough to claim a starting spot.

It why blokes like Raheem walk out on us then come back then want to **** off again.

It's why we get blokes like Galloway Gallagher Cameron Watson at our club

It just piss weak thinking to hope this type of weak thinking is going to get us anywhere

MFKS
11-04-2017, 04:54 PM
So we could be going for Castro according to The World Game

McKinna doing a great job at diverting the heat off Jones with bullshit rumours.

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The Dunster
11-04-2017, 04:58 PM
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Club needs to hand SD subsidies so these pool parties can continue

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 05:02 PM
That is basically the style of thinking that has got us in this rut.

It why blokes like Kanta and BK have been kept for years despite not actually developing enough to claim a starting spot.

It why blokes like Raheem walk out on us then come back then want to **** off again.

It's why we get blokes like Galloway Gallagher Cameron Watson at our club

It just piss weak thinking to hope this type of weak thinking is going to get us anywhere

Well our squad cant all be first teamers on big wages. These guys would be on low coin as well. Unless you can name me 6 or 7 other squad players worth getting. This is just the best of the bunch from our current squad IMO

MFKS
11-04-2017, 05:13 PM
Well our squad cant all be first teamers on big wages. These guys would be on low coin as well. Unless you can name me 6 or 7 other squad players worth getting. This is just the best of the bunch from our current squad IMO

Why can't our squad all be first teamers??

Seems to be the idea of competent club

Fill up your 23 man roster with as many first team players as possible

Yet we lucky to fill up our 23 man roster with non first teamers

MonkeyKplunk
11-04-2017, 05:37 PM
Why can't our squad all be first teamers??

Seems to be the idea of competent club

Fill up your 23 man roster with as many first team players as possible

Yet we lucky to fill up our 23 man roster with non first teamers

Works in theory. But then again so does everything...

MonkeyKplunk
11-04-2017, 05:51 PM
Lets be realistic.

A club has to have 20 players minimum, 23 players maximum (this to me still seems too little considering we're still pushing to be a big part of ACL)
Of those 23 players, you have to have a minimum 3 Australian players aged 20 or under. So lets assume they're all Youth players who would only MAYBE come off the bench, that leaves 20 players to be of genuine first team or rotation standard.

Now if a club was smart, you can spend up to $150k outside the cap on 3 Australian youth players 23 or under who have come up through your club. So you'd spend that on the 3 players you have to have in the squad.

Salary cap is $2.60 million (2016/17), and you have to spend a minimum $2.34 million (90% of the cap).
That means you have an average of between $117,000 and $130,000 per player for the remaining 20.

Say you pay 6 rotation players just the minimum wage ($55,715) and 3 bench/rotation players slightly more ($65,000) that's only $529,290 out of the cap.
Leaving $2.07 million to spend on your first team starting 11. An average of $188,246 per player.
The average increases further when you include the 2 marquees you can have for an unlimited amount.

It's fairly generic, but I can start to see where we might have been going when we were under FFA control and not allowed to use a marquee, and then again this season when we declined to use even one of those spots.

The Dunster
11-04-2017, 05:53 PM
Well our squad cant all be first teamers on big wages. These guys would be on low coin as well. Unless you can name me 6 or 7 other squad players worth getting. This is just the best of the bunch from our current squad IMO

Problem is we have too many players on ridiculous money to be able to bargain effectively.

I mean how do you negotiate contracts / offers to potential defenders taking into consideration what Boogs and Mullen are being paid. The new players will at least want as much if not more because the price is already established.
How about a striker: Look what the current ones are paid - look at how many goals they have scored. New striker will again base their claims on current strikers wage and performance.
What other clubs offer doesn't need to be anywhere near our offers because the risk of playing here is so high - wooden spoons don't look good on anyone's CV

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 06:41 PM
Problem is we have too many players on ridiculous money to be able to bargain effectively.

I mean how do you negotiate contracts / offers to potential defenders taking into consideration what Boogs and Mullen are being paid. The new players will at least want as much if not more because the price is already established.
How about a striker: Look what the current ones are paid - look at how many goals they have scored. New striker will again base their claims on current strikers wage and performance.
What other clubs offer doesn't need to be anywhere near our offers because the risk of playing here is so high - wooden spoons don't look good on anyone's CV

We dont even know if these besides boogs are on stupid money.

MFKS
11-04-2017, 07:41 PM
We dont even know if these besides boogs are on stupid money.

**** I hope Mullen is on stupid money just to see how you respond

StannyCFCJET
11-04-2017, 08:06 PM
**** I hope Mullen is on stupid money just to see how you respond

He'll get resigned for Boogs money cause he is Jones number 1 playa and as if the rest of you wouldnt be angry if he was

Jeterpool
11-04-2017, 08:12 PM
**** I hope Mullen is on stupid money just to see how you respond

:rof:

StannyCFCJET
12-04-2017, 02:55 PM
Before we sign any striker we need players who can actually cross the ball and deliver a Corner that isn't too long or short

Frodo
12-04-2017, 03:06 PM
Before we sign any striker we need players who can actually cross the ball and deliver a Corner that isn't too long or short

Wow!

hawk
13-04-2017, 12:10 AM
If we are going to be shit

Let's spend the minimum on players and just put it to other worth while projects like Jet Shaped hats, half priced beers, Giant pool party with SD as host etc

Hello, this is what we have been spouting for yrs while youve been skitzing out about performances.

Member has finally come round.

Wilso8948
13-04-2017, 10:11 PM
Worldgame reporting we are still in talks with FBK. Have some interest in Austin. Very confident with odonnovan and Castro is a bit of a dream.
Not really anything we don't already know.

StannyCFCJET
13-04-2017, 10:18 PM
Worldgame reporting we are still in talks with FBK. Have some interest in Austin. Very confident with odonnovan and Castro is a bit of a dream.
Not really anything we don't already know.

where does this leave Lee's chinese and chilean player thing?

Wilso8948
13-04-2017, 10:23 PM
Well ocaravan, brown, fbk would take up 3. That's provided they don't use a marquee

StannyCFCJET
13-04-2017, 10:28 PM
Well ocaravan, brown, fbk would take up 3. That's provided they don't use a marquee

Surely were getting rid of Brown.

Wilso8948
13-04-2017, 10:35 PM
Surely were getting rid of Brown.
Yeh sign a contract extension then **** him off. Would be so Jets.

hawk
13-04-2017, 11:21 PM
So Brown town.

Kalfalah and psycho Santo would add some spice

StannyCFCJET
13-04-2017, 11:40 PM
Yeh sign a contract extension then **** him off. Would be so Jets.

Well he hasnt justified this extension has he?

hawk
14-04-2017, 10:14 AM
Well he hasnt justified this extension has he?

Which makes us wonder why he was given an extension

Jetmaster
14-04-2017, 10:39 AM
We can't payout everybody....Brown will stay.

westjet
14-04-2017, 10:43 AM
Since we are not using the full salary cap can you use the amount we dont use to pay players out?

MFKS
14-04-2017, 11:40 AM
Since we are not using the full salary cap can you use the amount we dont use to pay players out?

No reason at all.

Only need to renegotiate the terms of our players contracts so we pay them now instead of later

Player gets cash now and if he can find gig elsewhere is in front

Mark325
15-04-2017, 11:13 PM
nobby put on instagram that he's leaving australia, so thats one foreign spot freed up

The Dunster
16-04-2017, 12:17 AM
nobby put on instagram that he's leaving australia, so thats one foreign spot freed up

He should stick around - I hear there might be a coaching job available soon in Newcastle.

halo se7en
16-04-2017, 06:06 AM
Mariners have confirmed O'Donovan is leaving too.

hawk
16-04-2017, 12:37 PM
Q. Who is in charge of recruitment at this club? not probably but doing the job. Is anyone at the club game to put their hand up?

Carn, need answers from the supposed in groups

turbojetfireV8
16-04-2017, 01:25 PM
thank you Mr Lee, now let the rebuilding commence...

Tommyjet
16-04-2017, 01:36 PM
Q. Who is in charge of recruitment at this club? not probably but doing the job. Is anyone at the club game to put their hand up?

Carn, need answers from the supposed in groups

Lord Griff is the football manager and person responsible for most of the negotiating etc.

Mark325
16-04-2017, 02:29 PM
I'd assume this changes talks with dudes like O'Donovan and FBK

WolfMan
16-04-2017, 02:48 PM
I'd assume this changes talks with dudes like O'Donovan and FBK

Yes, they might want to join us now...

MFKS
16-04-2017, 02:56 PM
I'd assume this changes talks with dudes like O'Donovan and FBK

I heard that o caravan is signed and sealed and to be announced this week from my sauces

Jeterpool
16-04-2017, 03:13 PM
Yes, they might want to join us now...

:rof:

hawk
16-04-2017, 03:44 PM
Well theres some gun trying to sign some decent players over the past few weeks. We could reach 7th and be happy

Jardelsimage
16-04-2017, 06:02 PM
I heard that o caravan is signed and sealed and to be announced this week from my sauces

are they tomato or BBQ sauces

tomo
17-04-2017, 12:11 AM
are they tomato or BBQ sauces
Thats old news. U havent been here long enough to get the lingo... get back in line!

Jeterpool
17-04-2017, 07:19 AM
Thats old news. U havent been here long enough to get the lingo... get back in line!

Yet they joined 3 years before you :rof:

turbojetfireV8
17-04-2017, 10:05 PM
old news, but wondering why Lawrie retweeted Reddy's supposed joke that he was joining his 8th A-League club next season...

furns
17-04-2017, 10:22 PM
old news, but wondering why Lawrie retweeted Reddy's supposed joke that he was joining his 8th A-League club next season...Hes probably fired him twice in his career lol

Grimario
17-04-2017, 10:37 PM
old news, but wondering why Lawrie retweeted Reddy's supposed joke that he was joining his 8th A-League club next season...

Reddy already has the Jets in his collection... we wouldn't be his 8th.

Jardelsimage
18-04-2017, 09:00 AM
Thats old news. U havent been here long enough to get the lingo... get back in line!

been here longer than you Tomo sauce.......

ForeverRed
18-04-2017, 09:03 PM
been here longer than you Tomo sauce.......

nice one

Jeterpool
19-04-2017, 10:19 AM
I didn't realise Alex Cisak was still at Orient. With their financial trouble and his contract expiring, he could be a keeper to look at to replace BK and create comptition with Duncan.

The Camel
19-04-2017, 10:22 AM
Thomas Broich is not being offered a contract at the Roar and wants to play on. He is eligible and applying for Aussie citizenship apparently too. The Jets could do a lot worse than offering him a gig IMO. He has stated he wants to coach post career and with the Emerging Jets coming in house you could offer him a package where coaching in the Academy was part of the deal meaning a smaller portion would come under the salary cap.

Jetmaster
19-04-2017, 10:43 AM
Thomas Broich is not being offered a contract at the Roar and wants to play on. He is eligible and applying for Aussie citizenship apparently too. The Jets could do a lot worse than offering him a gig IMO. He has stated he wants to coach post career and with the Emerging Jets coming in house you could offer him a package where coaching in the Academy was part of the deal meaning a smaller portion would come under the salary cap.

Was thinking that myself last week. Word is Roar will try to do something for him to keep him there - and so they should.

BTW - has Hooley flown out to one of the stampede of Euro clubs after him?

lil_masi
19-04-2017, 11:10 AM
Considering we've signed our starting striker, and the club has confirmed we'll be have a marquee - question would be whether it'll be 1 or 2 marquees.

I would want both Nathan Burns and Spiranovic or a AM.

Jeterpool
19-04-2017, 11:27 AM
Considering we've signed our starting striker, and the club has confirmed we'll be have a marquee - question would be whether it'll be 1 or 2 marquees.

I would want both Nathan Burns and Spiranovic or a AM.

Burns is a great shout, especially given his lack of game time and previous exposure with Ernie. He would be a more than adequate replacement for Hoole.

Jeterpool
19-04-2017, 11:32 AM
People can keep adding to this list of possible names to save the Herald when they look for players to speculate about

Goal Keepers
Alex Cisak (Leyton Orient - ENG)

Defenders
Matt Spiranovic - Marquee

Midfielders
Steven Lustica - that's for Plague

Attackers
Nathan Burns
Ben Halloran
Roy O'Donovan - Visa
Fahid Ben Khalfallah - Visa
Thomas Broich

lil_masi
19-04-2017, 12:16 PM
People can keep adding to this list of possible names to save the Herald when they look for players to speculate about

Goal Keepers
Alex Cisak (Leyton Orient - ENG)

Defenders
Matt Spiranovic - Marquee

Midfielders
Steven Lustica - that's for Plague

Attackers
Nathan Burns
Ben Halloran
Roy O'Donovan - Visa
Fahid Ben Khalfallah - Visa
Thomas Broich

I was going to mention Halloran, would be a good signing under the cap (in addition to Burns).
I would be fine if we signed Arcaba as keeper too.

With our imports we have brown/odonovan + 1 chinese. If we cant offload Kokko that makes 4 imports. I would want our other import being superior to Fahid.

plague
19-04-2017, 12:25 PM
Midfielders
Steven Lustica - that's for Plague

Attackers
Nathan Burns


Lustica, Ooga Booga and Johnny K across the middle would get me back in the stands.

From what I saw on the weekend Nathan Burns ain't getting back in that Tokyo team. Their skill level was amazing, he was nowhere near that from what I've seen.

Bring him home Middleby.

plague
19-04-2017, 12:29 PM
Another kid I saw on the weekend was Kento Hashimoto, he was a standout in a great game of football and he's apparently on about 75k per year.

He's marquee level over here.

But of course we'll just go overpay some washed up old white guy won't we.

plague
19-04-2017, 12:32 PM
This stupid club still hasn't worked out that our best ever (non Griff/Jobe) players have been Asian kids, why we aren't raiding their youth teams astounds me.

Grimario
19-04-2017, 12:34 PM
This stupid club still hasn't worked out that our best ever (non Griff/Jobe) players have been Asian kids, why we aren't raiding their youth teams astounds me.

And Colombian.

furns
15-05-2017, 12:25 PM
moved all new posts into the current thread, and am unsticking this one

:closed: