2016/17 Squad Thread

[Premy]

So with him having 12 months left on his current contract I couldn't see him coming back for less money.

[MFKS]

So with him having 12 months left on his current contract I couldn't see him coming back for less money.

If you have been moved down pecking order at Smurfs and scrapping for game time plus Arnold has publically stated he is not planning on developing kids any more as he needs ready made players and results then it is highly likely he will come back here on less coin

2 Years in the wilderness and off contract isn't good for his career or future contact negotiations

To me he should be getting out of Smurfs ASAP to go somewhere he can play regardless of how much coin he drops this year

We fit the bill

[lil_masi]

Theres talk that hes coming for less money than he's on at syd and that it'll be a 2yr contract

[borat]

Theres talk that hes coming for less money than he's on at syd and that it'll be a 2yr contract

Hoole took less than we offered him to go to Sydney. To return 12 months later on even less again is good business for us providing he can return to his past form and improve

[borat]

Just a point on the press articles stating we have only 2 Visa spots left. With the changes to the guest player rules now for 12 months this effectively provides for an extra visa player if we want to use it.

Signing Duncan would be interesting considering we still need to sign 2 u20's. Duncan, Hoole, 2x u 20s and 2x visas is a full 23 man squad with only a guest and a mature age rookie up our sleeve

[plague]

The mid-season arrival of Morten Nordstrand and Steve Ugarkovic helped the Jets climb to eighth spot,

This is just the most Jets thing ever written.

Brilliant.

[MFKS]

Yeah but to put it into context we were either 8th or 9th anyway when they arrived

The Gypos were definitely last and we were slipping down the ladder with our mid season capitulation and we were either behind or above only Phoenix anyway

[The Dunster]

Hoole took less than we offered him to go to Sydney. To return 12 months later on even less again is good business for us providing he can return to his past form and improve

How is it good business to sign an attacking player that has never scored in open play after 65 A-League appearances ? At any price for that matter.

Same old Jets no wonder they can't make the top 6.

[MFKS]

How is it good business to sign an attacking player that has never scored in open play after 65 A-League appearances ? At any price for that matter.

Same old Jets no wonder they can't make the top 6.

When you play for teams as bad as Smurfs and us it is no wonder he hasn't scored in 65 games

[borat]

How is it good business to sign an attacking player that has never scored in open play after 65 A-League appearances ? At any price for that matter.

Same old Jets no wonder they can't make the top 6.

Well I am sure you can work out when you sign someone for significantly less than you offered 12 months earlier it's good business.

But I get it, there is a good number of supporters who will death ride him no matter what. I am happy to see how he goes. If he can recapture his form from 2 seasons ago then we have made a smart capture.

All this hate is a little baffling. Hoole was never going to be signed until Ledman opened up the purse strings. For mine he is another option for Miller that we would not have had if not for the new investment. He might start, he might sit on the bench. So what, it's an option we otherwise would not have had.

Hoole isn't the finished product but he doesn't need to be. We aren't relying on him to win us games and score us goals. He needs to get his form back, contribute to the team and, hopefully, improve his game so that he can start scoring and push for a start.

What other Australian off contract should we have signed? Connor Pain (who was on contract) would have been nice but we didn't have an Austin to give up in exchange.

[The Dunster]

When you play for teams as bad as Smurfs and us it is no wonder he hasn't scored in 65 games

Very true.

[The Dunster]

Well I am sure you can work out when you sign someone for significantly less than you offered 12 months earlier it's good business.

But I get it, there is a good number of supporters who will death ride him no matter what. I am happy to see how he goes. If he can recapture his form from 2 seasons ago then we have made a smart capture.

All this hate is a little baffling. Hoole was never going to be signed until Ledman opened up the purse strings. For mine he is another option for Miller that we would not have had if not for the new investment. He might start, he might sit on the bench. So what, it's an option we otherwise would not have had.

Hoole isn't the finished product but he doesn't need to be. We aren't relying on him to win us games and score us goals. He needs to get his form back, contribute to the team and, hopefully, improve his game so that he can start scoring and push for a start.

What other Australian off contract should we have signed? Connor Pain (who was on contract) would have been nice but we didn't have an Austin to give up in exchange.

I would have signed Kale Bradbury just for the MFKS posts alone - not to mention the Fap Fest Meter registering 11.

[Couscous]

Ffs, Hoole never played under Miller. Why shouldn't he believe the club's run differently now?

[monz6]

Re Hoole... I know he left, he's judas, he said negative things about us, yadda yadda yadda but can someone explain how signing someone better than back up options we have is a bad thing? Assuming we are going to be using visa spots on front third players how is having Hoole as a back up bad? Realistically we aren't going to get anyone better as a non Visa player and the players we have there at the moment don't cut it. Hes a lot better than pav and Brennan and anything we have in the youth. He's an ex jets player of the season and whether or not it was in 'our worst team' I think it is a no brainer

[GazFish35]

It'll be even better business if miller can improve him and sell him for a profit.

[plague]

They should play Hoole in goals and make him fight it out with BK.
Foz would self combust.
Would be epic.

[Premy]

Let's just welcome Judas and his sh1t haircut back and trudge on.

I searched the last 4 pages of this to find your thoughts and completely missed this on the first glance.

WTF.
I'm disappointed I expected more from you.

[lil_masi]

I really hope we make a play for Troisi. Just what we need. Looks as though hes on his way out from his Chinese club.

[hawk]

I searched the last 4 pages of this to find your thoughts and completely missed this on the first glance.
WTF.
I'm disappointed I expected more from you.

dont be too surprised.
Ill call it as it happened, check the Hoole thread. He does not deserve my respect after he jumped from a sinking ship and into an aidsfest club. Thought it would be quite obvious really. Although he did help sink the smurfs quite well so I may give him another chance yet. Everyone cant agree all the time.

[skullboy]

Yeah but to put it into context we were either 8th or 9th anyway when they arrived

The Gypos were definitely last and we were slipping down the ladder with our mid season capitulation and we were either behind or above only Phoenix anyway

When Carney went to Sydney we were a chance of catching them for a while

[The Dunster]

I really hope we make a play for Troisi. Just what we need. Looks as though hes on his way out from his Chinese club.

It's against Jets policy to sign midfielders that regularly score goals.

I'd rather pay 300k or more for Troisi than 75k for Hoole [although I think Hoole might be on a lot more]

[Jeterpool]

It's against Jets policy to sign midfielders that regularly score goals.


That was under the old management. Let's remain cautiously optimistic and see what happens.

[tomo]

It's against Jets policy to sign midfielders that regularly score goals.

I'd rather pay 300k or more for Troisi than 75k for Hoole [although I think Hoole might be on a lot more]

Wasnt it rumoured at the time that both the Jets and Sydney tabled $250k offers to Hoole?

[MFKS]

I not know where you hearing that

I was told it was 100k there abouts

Jets offered more by about 5-10k and he went to Sydney

[Frodo]

Why do people think Troisi would want to come here? If he comes back to the HAL he would want to go somewhere to put himself back in the shop window. We play all our games at shite times and are barely on TV, no commentator or reporter gives a toss about us and we haven't made the finals in 35 years. Someone like Holman or Wilkshire who wants to get paid marquee money might come here because they would want to know exactly how many extra fans they bring to games and to be paid accordingly, Milligan would be a long shot but he isn't getting any younger and he would walk in as captain and could probably earn himself an after football gig as well.

I feel bad for you guys who think we have a realistic chance of signing someone like him or Timmeh this year, or probably next year, but we have so much crap to sort through behind the scenes that it's just not gonna happen. Top 4 is a realistic aim with a couple of attacking players and some decent coaching. Once we show people that we are a functioning club that can pay it's bills and keep it's word then we can start talking to top level targets.

I love you all and hate being a negative prick but someone has to do it, and i lied cause i love being negative and you all smell like cheese, :rof:

[turbojetfireV8]

I not know where you hearing that

I was told it was 100k there abouts

Jets offered more by about 5-10k and he went to Sydney

$100K sounds way too low for a self absorbed little prick like that, would've scoffed at min $175K with his belief he was gonna be the next super hero to hit Sydney, you sure about that figure???

[Jeterpool]

Why do people think Troisi would want to come here? If he comes back to the HAL he would want to go somewhere to put himself back in the shop window. We play all our games at shite times and are barely on TV, no commentator or reporter gives a toss about us and we haven't made the finals in 35 years. Someone like Holman or Wilkshire who wants to get paid marquee money might come here because they would want to know exactly how many extra fans they bring to games and to be paid accordingly, Milligan would be a long shot but he isn't getting any younger and he would walk in as captain and could probably earn himself an after football gig as well.

I feel bad for you guys who think we have a realistic chance of signing someone like him or Timmeh this year, or probably next year, but we have so much crap to sort through behind the scenes that it's just not gonna happen. Top 4 is a realistic aim with a couple of attacking players and some decent coaching. Once we show people that we are a functioning club that can pay it's bills and keep it's word then we can start talking to top level targets.

I love you all and hate being a negative prick but someone has to do it, and i lied cause i love being negative and you all smell like cheese, :rof:

Straight away we offer a different appeal. If we are going to be exposed to China, where there are huge contracts on offer, it's appealing to any player. Look at the paper today and the exposure the kids have already had.

If we can utilise this to bring better players into our team we will start getting better broadcast times and the like.

[Grimario]

Rumours around he coming back to us

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/duncan-set-jets-return

[StannyCFCJET]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/duncan-set-jets-return

heard this a few days ago good signing i reckon would push Kennedy for the number 1 spot (Kennedy has earn't first crack IMO). always thought Duncan did well in the few games he played for us

[Jeterpool]

heard this a few days ago good signing i reckon would push Kennedy for the number 1 spot (Kennedy has earn't first crack IMO). always thought Duncan did well in the few games he played for us

He played a few for Perth. He only played 38 minutes for us as a sub for BK against the Roar. :wink:

If this signing comes off, I'm not displeased.

[Grimario]

Quelle surprise.

http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-and-andrew-hoole-agree-contract-termination/9r1ic850lupi131rusvamqdcc

[Roundball Enthusiast]

https://twitter.com/JamesGardiner42/status/744708832627089408

Urgh.

[Grimario]

https://twitter.com/JamesGardiner42/status/744708832627089408

Urgh.

He's better than Brennan and Pav. Hopefully we still get a pair of foreign wingers and he's only here as back up.

Maybe.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

He's better than Brennan and Pav. Hopefully we still get a pair of foreign wingers and he's only here as back up.

Maybe.

He better be fkn cheap too.

[pv4]

I hope Hoole comes back. And he will prove you all so, so wrong.

[pv4]

Kennedy has earn't first crack IMO

Genuine question - how has he earnt it?

[StannyCFCJET]

Genuine question - how has he earnt it?

By putting in good performances when ever Birraz was available/****ed off to europe

[The Camel]

By putting in good performances when ever Birraz was available/****ed off to europe

Has he though? I would dispute that

[StannyCFCJET]

Has he though? I would dispute that

was excellent against victory this year and last season when we had Stubbins his saves stopped us hitting 5-0 losses every week. People seem to forget whenever we concede with BK playing there is more than BK on the field. Birraz makes mistakes but never receives the ridicule BK does

[Wilso8948]

Please don't start this BK shit in this thread

[Jetmaster]

Please don't start this BK shit in this thread

"We didn't start the fire...."

[StannyCFCJET]

Please don't start this BK shit in this thread

Well people need to treat him the same as birraz instead of saying he's a shit keeper because its the cool thing to do

[Wilso8948]

Well people need to treat him the same as birraz instead of saying he's a shit keeper because its the cool thing to do

No. You need to drag your BK fap fest over to the BK v Birraz thread and join the merry-go-round.

[StannyCFCJET]

Tthere's no merry go round here. I believe BK deserves number 1 spot if birraz leaves end of story.

[Jeterpool]

No. You need to drag your BK fap fest over to the BK v Birraz thread and join the merry-go-round.

It will be the BK v JD thread soon

[MFKS]

Bring Civic back

Keep BK on the bench forever

[Bon]

It will be the BK v JD thread soon

Next, Wilso vs Stanny will be added to the already growing fight card of SD vs Hamma, Zico vs Forever Red and the headliner MFKS vs Everyone.. :gent:

[StannyCFCJET]

Next, Wilso vs Stanny will be added to the already growing fight card of SD vs Hamma, Zico vs Forever Red and the headliner MFKS vs Everyone.. :gent:

Negative everyone rates players differently. I stand by my BK point of view if others dont rate him fair enough. Ill be happy with BK or Duncan

[ForeverRed]

Next, Wilso vs Stanny will be added to the already growing fight card of SD vs Hamma, Zico vs Forever Red and the headliner MFKS vs Everyone.. :gent:
leave me out of this :rof:

[plague]

leave me out of this :rof:

Put me in this

[GazFish35]

drop this BK on the bench for Covic rubbish.

After Italy win the Euro's I want JVS working his Juve contacts to get Buffon out here to keep BK on the bench.

[StannyCFCJET]

drop this BK on the bench for Covic rubbish.

After Italy win the Euro's I want JVS working his Juve contacts to get Buffon out here to keep BK on the bench.

bigger signing than del peiro for sydney fc me thinks

[Wilso8948]

Negative everyone rates players differently. I stand by my BK point of view if others dont rate him fair enough. Ill be happy with BK or Duncan

Pussy..

[hawk]

so we'll get all these players that we want or dont want then start the climb to champions league. Apparently all players are going to improve more than other clubs as well. Lee has some good stuff. Was he ever in charge of Chinese swimmers?

[MFKS]

so we'll get all these players that we want or dont want then start the climb to champions league. Apparently all players are going to improve more than other clubs as well. Lee has some good stuff. Was he ever in charge of Chinese swimmers?

Yep

The new Chinese overlord so far has offered very little

3 year goal to make ACL

By signing no names and rejects of other clubs??

Bloke has very little ambition it would seem


Good thing is he is keeping expectations very low as he is promising us 2/3 of sweet **** all right now

[Jeterpool]

Yep

The new Chinese overlord so far has offered very little

3 year goal to make ACL

By signing no names and rejects of other clubs??

Bloke has very little ambition it would seem


Good thing is he is keeping expectations very low as he is promising us 2/3 of sweet **** all right now

He hasn't taken over the club yet. Let's get to the end of June, wait 6 days into July and then you can slam him.

[hawk]

He hasn't taken over the club yet. Let's get to the end of June, wait 6 days into July and then you can slam him.

essentially.

I havent given up on him but just wondering when/where the improvement is going to commence.

There's still time and hopefully $ to make this happen but I would like a couple a intelligent signings soon not just scrambling for the usual rejects.

[RAM]

Covic is becoming stiff and losing agility with age. I think he would be a liability, and BK is a much better option for the price.

[Bon]

Its now official, Hoole is back..


Newcastle Jets are pleased to confirm that the club has welcomed home locally born and bred attacking ace Andrew Hoole from Sydney FC for the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 season.

Hoole has represented Australia at a variety of youth levels in the past, and came through the respected Broadmeadow Magic Football Club during his days as a youth player in Newcastle.

Following his time with Magic Hoole progressed through the Newcastle Jets Youth system, and then made the jump into the Hyundai A-League.

Hoole made 50 Hyundai A-League appearances for the Jets between 2013 and 2015, and earned the club’s 2015 Player of the Year prize for his standout performances throughout the 2014/15 campaign.

Hoole swapped Hunter for Allianz Stadium last season, however will now return to his hometown club on a one-season contract.

The 22-year-old believes the Jets have made obvious improvements on and off the field over the past year, and is excited to work under Scott Miller - a coach who first attempted to bring the versatile attacker home in January this year.

“The progress that has been made at the Jets over the past 12 months is clear,” Hoole said. “I am excited to be part of the club’s new direction, and am keen to get to work with the squad when pre-season starts next week.”

“Scott [Miller] has shown a real desire to have me at the club, and I appreciate that. I want to work closely with him, the staff and squad to develop my game next season and help the group to achieve its goals.”

Miller said that while it’s a bonus for the Jets to bring a local player back to the region, Hoole’s ability and potential is the primary reason why he has been re-recruited by the club.

“It’s undoubtedly a benefit for us that Andrew is a local product in that he understands culturally what it is like to play for Newcastle Jets and the region,” Miller said. “However his technical ability and potential is what I look at, and in Andrew I believe we have a player capable of positively influencing matches.”

“Over the next 12 months we want to see Andrew go to the next level technically and tactically, and expect him to become a commanding figure within our squad,” Miller concluded.

The addition of Hoole to the club’s first team squad for the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 season adds to the strong local flavour within the Jets’ professional ranks.

Experienced professionals Nigel Boogaard, Ben Kennedy, Ben Kantarovski, Jason Hoffman, and the developing Nick Cowburn are also local juniors, meaning a third of the Jets’ current Hyundai A-League contracted players for next campaign hail from the region in which they will represent.

[stopper2]

Brosque has been offered a pay-cut at SFC and has been mentioned that he may link up at WSW.
At 32 I still think he has a lot to offer and at least we may have a chance of getting some points against the Smurfs as he always seems to score against us.
Worth at least enquiring about.

[Wilso8948]

**** Brosque. Also glad to see Hoole only been given a 12 month contract. Make or break time son.

[lil_masi]

Interesting that Hooles only signed for 1 year.
Good as in if hes still crap we can get rid of him and sign someone better if we're splashing more $$ next season.
Bad, if he goes good and we want to re-sign him he'll ask for more. Or if he goes overseas we get no transfer fee.

[stopper2]

No coincidence that Brosque being out for much of the 2nd half of the season was a big factor in Shitney's fall down the ladder.
Still one of the most effective attacking players in the comp.
Agree though on Hoole, he has to perform this season and get to the next level if he wants to continue playing at A League level beyond this season.

[MFKS]

I think the whole foz should get a whip around going to buy Hawk his very own 2016-16 Newy Jets replica Hoole shirt with name and number on the back so he can wear with pride each week

Even get the ****er autographed for him


I will kick $5 in to the kitty to get the ball rolling

[Roundball Enthusiast]

I think the whole foz should get a whip around going to buy Hawk his very own 2016-16 Newy Jets replica Hoole shirt with name and number on the back so he can wear with pride each week

Even get the ****er autographed for him


I will kick $5 in to the kitty to get the ball rolling

I'll put in $10.

But he has to wear it, home and away all 16-17.

[stopper2]

I think the whole foz should get a whip around going to buy Hawk his very own 2016-16 Newy Jets replica Hoole shirt with name and number on the back so he can wear with pride each week

Even get the ****er autographed for him


I will kick $5 in to the kitty to get the ball rolling

Have I missed something, what's this all about?

[Jeterpool]

Have I missed something, what's this all about?

Hawk doesn't like Hoole. Everyone is waiting for a rage quit from Hawk given this week's rumours and today's announcement.

Member is looking to add fuel to the fire.

[GazFish35]

1 yr contract - how many are contracted beyond Miller's tenure?

I know he's said he doesn't want to leave the next guy with the "not my squad" excuse, but we could end up with the next guy having the "total new squad" excuse.

[hawk]

Hawk doesn't like Hoole. Everyone is waiting for a rage quit from Hawk given this week's rumours and today's announcement.

Member is looking to add fuel to the fire.

luckily no-one can find the old Hoole thread.... I'm a pretty progressive type. Spose I can see how he goes before judgement II occurs. I'd better see a socceroo performance

[Jeterpool]

1 yr contract - how many are contracted beyond Miller's tenure?

I know he's said he doesn't want to leave the next guy with the "not my squad" excuse, but we could end up with the next guy having the "total new squad" excuse.

Boogaard, Hoffman, Cowburn, Jackson, Clut, Alessi and Brown

[Roundball Enthusiast]

luckily no-one can find the old Hoole thread.... I'm a pretty progressive type. Spose I can see how he goes before judgement II occurs. I'd better see a socceroo performance

Can't find a new "Hoole out" or "Dig a hoole" thread either, whats going on Hawk..

[Jeterpool]

luckily no-one can find the old Hoole thread.... I'm a pretty progressive type. Spose I can see how he goes before judgement II occurs. I'd better see a socceroo performance

What, this one? http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/showthread.php?476-Andrew-Hoole-appreciation-thread/page7&highlight=hoole

Where has Mother Teresa gone these days?

[R Ramjet]

Cant say im that excited about hooligan coming back to the club ..........

[tomo]

Squad update, anyone?

[The Postman]

On it

1.
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
3. Jason Hoffman - 17/18
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 16/17
6.
7.
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
9.
10.
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
13.
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15.
16. Steven Ugarković - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
18.
19. Morten Nordstrand - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21.
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
23.

Nick Cowburn - 17/18
Devante Clut - 17/18
Wayne Brown - 17/18
Daniel Alessi - 17/18
Andrew Hoole - 16/17

Open spots
1. Jack Duncan?
2. U/20
3. U/20
4.
5.

[tomo]

On it

1.
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
3. Jason Hoffman - 17/18
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 16/17
6.
7.
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
9.
10.
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
13.
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15.
16. Steven Ugarković - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
18.
19. Morten Nordstrand - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21.
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
23.

Nick Cowburn - 17/18
Devante Clut - 17/18
Wayne Brown - 17/18
Daniel Alessi - 17/18
Andrew Hoole - 16/17

Open spots
1. Jack Duncan?
2. U/20
3. U/20
4.
5.

Thanks 👍🏻

[plague]

Interesting that Hooles only signed for 1 year.

LeBron only signed for one year and he just won the whole damn shit for sorry ass Cleveland.

Hooles on the same trajectory.

[turbojetfireV8]

What, this one? http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/showthread.php?476-Andrew-Hoole-appreciation-thread/page7&highlight=hoole

Where has Mother Teresa gone these days?

Hoole had his mother posting support for him??? She prefer the skyblue as well?? :redcard:

[Tommyjet]

So we looking at a squad of 23 now with a few/all possible cap concessions used.

By some of the comments made by miller it should mean a fair bit of cap space left.

Hopefully he is planning on getting a leftback now if he wasnt before.

[Tommyjet]

Also anyone else think martin lee is playing the game a bit with regards to marquees, especially with the talk of ffa marquee fund becoming available to help draw some star power in?
Im not sure when this fund comes into effect but maybe marty is thinking 'why should i pay the whole amount when i can get the ffa to pay a portion'.

[stopper2]

Also anyone else think martin lee is playing the game a bit with regards to marquees, especially with the talk of ffa marquee fund becoming available to help draw some star power in?
Im not sure when this fund comes into effect but maybe marty is thinking 'why should i pay the whole amount when i can get the ffa to pay a portion'.

True, that could be the case. The thing is there are still over 3 months till the start of the season, a lot of things could change between now and then.

[Grimario]

True, that could be the case. The thing is there are still over 3 months till the start of the season, a lot of things could change between now and then.

We could just be waiting for Euro 2016 to finish so we can announce Zlatan.

[Jetmaster]

There's a transfer window around the corner - no doubt a few fire sales and some free agents will become available.

[Grimario]

There's a transfer window around the corner - no doubt a few fire sales and some free agents will become available.

Yep... and most contracts in Europe don't officially end till 30th June, right?

[borat]

So we looking at a squad of 23 now with a few/all possible cap concessions used.

By some of the comments made by miller it should mean a fair bit of cap space left.

Hopefully he is planning on getting a leftback now if he wasnt before.

You would think one of the u20's would be a LB.

[Tommyjet]

Yep... and most contracts in Europe don't officially end till 30th June, right?

Yep, most are june 30th.
After spending a couple of evenings scrolling through transfermarkt.com at whats available soon im sure there is enough quality available in the areas (Scandinavia, England) for miller to choose from. Just hope we now have the funds to entice that bit higher calibre import we havent had for a for a while.

[Grimario]

You would think one of the u20's would be a LB.

Surely it will be Joice and GK in those spots with two foreign attackers in the remaining slots?

[Tommyjet]

You would think one of the u20's would be a LB.

5 spots left. Gk (likely to be duncan), 2 imports (atleast one of them will be a striker), 2 under 20's left (joice likely to be one of them).
So yeah either an under 20 leftback or possibly a foriegn leftback.

[Grimario]

5 spots left. Gk (likely to be duncan), 2 imports (atleast one of them will be a striker), 2 under 20's left (joice likely to be one of them).
So yeah either an under 20 leftback or possibly a foriegn leftback.

Unless it's changed, I am pretty sure the squad is required to have 3 GK's so one of those U20's will be a GK.

[lil_masi]

Unless it's changed, I am pretty sure the squad is required to have 3 GK's so one of those U20's will be a GK.

Never the case in the aleague

[MFKS]

Also anyone else think martin lee is playing the game a bit with regards to marquees, especially with the talk of ffa marquee fund becoming available to help draw some star power in?
Im not sure when this fund comes into effect but maybe marty is thinking 'why should i pay the whole amount when i can get the ffa to pay a portion'.

Either he doing the double bluff to keep expectation down for now by saying no Marquee with the intention of getting one as a surprise later or he just gonna pay the bills and we not getting shit.

Could be just a ruse but I backing we have a tight owner who won't be bringing Zlatan here

[Premy]

5 spots left. Gk (likely to be duncan), 2 imports (atleast one of them will be a striker), 2 under 20's left (joice likely to be one of them).
So yeah either an under 20 leftback or possibly a foriegn leftback.

I was under the impression that the 3 U/20s weren't included in the 23 man squad but you needed to have at least 3. I could be wrong, most likely I am

[Premy]

Either he doing the double bluff to keep expectation down for now by saying no Marquee with the intention of getting one as a surprise later or he just gonna pay the bills and we not getting shit.

Could be just a ruse but I backing we have a tight owner who won't be bringing Zlatan here

That's fine I don't want Zlatan, sure he would be nice but I want titles foremost.

[Grimario]

Never the case in the aleague

Must just be like that in FM... though I haven't played that in over a year, so who knows.

[borat]

I was under the impression that the 3 U/20s weren't included in the 23 man squad but you needed to have at least 3. I could be wrong, most likely I am

You are thinking of the allowance for 3 x NYL players on pro contracts (like Lundy last year). That is outside the cap.

The 3 u20's is a squad requirement and inside the cap.

[Tommyjet]

I was under the impression that the 3 U/20s weren't included in the 23 man squad but you needed to have at least 3. I could be wrong, most likely I am

I think the u/20's are within the cap but just read somewhere that a mature age rookie can be outside the roster limit of 23.

[borat]

Surely it will be Joice and GK in those spots with two foreign attackers in the remaining slots?

If we are now signing Duncan then there is no need for a 3rd goalkeeper within the HAL squad.

The issues before was the budget allowed by the FFA was restricting us to 21 players. With Lee on board we seem to be heading for the full 23 man squad which allows us to sign Duncan and still sign the visas and u20's

[borat]

Unless it's changed, I am pretty sure the squad is required to have 3 GK's so one of those U20's will be a GK.
No it's always been 2 goalkeepers in the HAL squad. We can always call up the NYL keeper as we have done in the past.

[Premy]

You are thinking of the allowance for 3 x NYL players on pro contracts (like Lundy last year). That is outside the cap.

The 3 u20's is a squad requirement and inside the cap.

That's it, cheers

[Grimario]

No it's always been 2 goalkeepers in the HAL squad. We can always call up the NYL keeper as we have done in the past.

Even in FM? That's where all of my football knowledge is from anyway...

[stopper2]

That's fine I don't want Zlatan, sure he would be nice but I want titles foremost.

Zlatan is the man for titles, has won them at every club he has been at. Pretty sure that he has won League titles at all 7 of the professional clubs he has played at from Malmo to PSG, way more than Messi and Ronaldo.

[borat]

442 is reporting we have agreed to terms with Duncan

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

442 is reporting we have agreed to terms with Duncan

Anyone in the know on his progression (if any).
I know he barely played for Perth and then benched it for Randers so he hasn't really played for 2 years.

[Grimario]

Anyone in the know on his progression (if any).
I know he barely played for Perth and then benched it for Randers so he hasn't really played for 2 years.

Different to BK how? :)

[The Camel]

Different to BK how? :)

Better Haircut?

[Jetmaster]

With it being very quiet on the Birraz front, I'm thinking the demand overseas isn't there and I am half expecting an announcement of Perth getting him.

What are Perth's current keeper stocks?

[StannyCFCJET]

Covicand some young guy thurtell??

[Grimario]

Covicand some young guy thurtell??

Isn't Covic undecided?

[Grimario]

With it being very quiet on the Birraz front, I'm thinking the demand overseas isn't there and I am half expecting an announcement of Perth getting him.

What are Perth's current keeper stocks?

Perth are linked with Reddy. Was in an article this morning, tacked onto something about some former Bundesliga youth player who is taking a punt on A-League interest and signing with Olympic or something.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-olympic-sign-former-schalke-midfielder-rene-klingengburg-who-has-eye-on-aleague-20160622-gppc64.html


Meanwhile, Perth Glory are understood to be in discussions to sign veteran goalkeeper Liam Reddy for next season after the 34-year-old was released from Western Sydney Wanderers. Should Reddy join the Glory it would be the seventh A-League club he has played for. Young Socceroos goalkeeper Jack Duncan was granted a release from Danish club Randers and is in discussions with Newcastle Jets.

[StannyCFCJET]

Isn't Covic undecided?

Is he? not sure he's still there player atm pretty sure. Is he considering retirement?

[Grimario]

Is he? not sure he's still there player atm pretty sure. Is he considering retirement?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/31863107/covic-to-mull-glory-future/

Offer on table, hasn't decided. Interestingly that they mention Glory chasing Biraz but he hasn't given up on OS gig.

[StannyCFCJET]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/31863107/covic-to-mull-glory-future/

Offer on table, hasn't decided. Interestingly that they mention Glory chasing Biraz but he hasn't given up on OS gig.

Glory are chasing everyone someone check their books

[Grimario]

Glory are chasing everyone someone check their books

They'll end up signing Covic, Jones, Schwarzer, Reddy, Biraz and Duncan....

All inside the cap.

[StannyCFCJET]

They'll end up signing Covic, Jones, Schwarzer, Reddy, Biraz and Duncan....

All inside the cap.

no doubt :woo:

[borat]

With it being very quiet on the Birraz front, I'm thinking the demand overseas isn't there and I am half expecting an announcement of Perth getting him.

What are Perth's current keeper stocks?
Heard the Perth CEO on the DFS podcast earlier this week say they had an offer to Covic and we're waiting to see what he would do. Covic's family stayed in Sydney last season so it's up in the air what he does.

He also mentioned the approach they made to Schwazer a month or so back, but said he was likely to stay in Europe or go to SFC if he comes to the HAL.

I read comments from Birraz recently where he had 3 offers from OS clubs that he was deciding on this week.

[MFKS]

Reading the Newy Herald this morning I found this bit of dribble in the Comments section to the latest spruiking from Millertime about how we are gonna be better this year etc crap



Scott look no further than your own back yard. There is a kid running around with Broadmeadow Magic who was in the Jets Youth a couple of years ago who they let go without giving him a go in the senior team. He was the top goal scorer in the National Youth league for two years and the top goal scorer in the local NPL for two years. His name is Kyle Bradbury, himself and Hoole know each others game well, he is worth a go and the bonus you will get him for a song. He will make you look like a genius.
The Knights went through the same with a local player called Nathan Ross eventually they gave him a go after many years, now there is five clubs clubs wanting his services..

Who is this Kyle Bradbury bloke??

Never heard of him

[Jeterpool]

Reading the Newy Herald this morning I found this bit of dribble in the Comments section to the latest spruiking from Millertime about how we are gonna be better this year etc crap


.

Who is this Kyle Bradbury bloke??

Never heard of him

Kale's brother slipped under the radar.

[plague]

Did Kale go all Caitlyn Jenner in order to get some attention?

[Jetmaster]

Just changed his name because of the Euros...

Now Bale Cadbury.

[Wilso8948]

Isn't he that guy that kept his feet and won an Winter Olympic gold medal or some shit?

[leftrightout]

What are your opinions on this Moryiasu that plays for Edgeworth in the NPL?
Obviously he is a visa player and we dont have room for a squaddie in the spots we have left. But maybe for the season after?
I havent actually seen him play but i watch the news each sunday and he seems to score quite a few goals and they are mostly decent strikes. He has obviously come to Australia looking for opportunities.
Is he worth looking at?

[plague]

Just changed his name because of the Euros...

Now Bale Cadbury.

I mean a good majority of your puns are terrible but every now and then you do one like this that makes me giggle so please keep going with them.

Cheers,
Plague.

[Grimario]

Duncan is confirmed.

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/confirmed-newcastle-jets-welcome-back-jack-duncan/vb7wig44uizt13orrhtcen5y4


“I feel like I am definitely ready to become the number one [goalkeeper] and that’s definitely what I have come here to do,” Duncan said. “I don’t want to be sitting on the bench.”

[StannyCFCJET]

Duncan is confirmed.

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/confirmed-newcastle-jets-welcome-back-jack-duncan/vb7wig44uizt13orrhtcen5y4

Good signing. Can only be a good thing to have BK and Duncan desperate for the first team spot

[plague]

BK and Duncan desperate for the first team spot

mods plz change thread title over in goalie land but please include mention of Biraz in the preamble to acknowledge him as a traditional owner.

Ta.

[Jeterpool]

mods plz change thread title over in goalie land but please include mention of Biraz in the preamble to acknowledge him as a traditional owner.

Ta.

Seconded

[riverboy]

What are your opinions on this Moryiasu that plays for Edgeworth in the NPL?
Obviously he is a visa player and we dont have room for a squaddie in the spots we have left. But maybe for the season after?
I havent actually seen him play but i watch the news each sunday and he seems to score quite a few goals and they are mostly decent strikes. He has obviously come to Australia looking for opportunities.
Is he worth looking at?

I have seen Edgeworth play twice. He is good, real good. Excellent touch and boy can he shoot. A LEAGUE level? , I think so. Difficult because he is a visa player, but he is better then alot of previous visa player. But that doesn't say much.

The fact that he is from asia means there could be re-sale.

[380]

No doubting the blokes ability but of what i have seen of him i think he could do with some more core strength. many times he gets shoved off the ball with little effort from an opponent.

[Couscous]

i think he could do with some more core strength

I'll talk to Miller about getting some pilates classes up and running.

[lil_masi]

Jets will sign 19yo left back Ivan Vujica as one of our u20. Australian born at Dinano Zagreb.
He has represented croatia at u19s

[leftrightout]

No doubting the blokes ability but of what i have seen of him i think he could do with some more core strength. many times he gets shoved off the ball with little effort from an opponent.
Something that could come from being a full time professional and doing more gym sessions. Interesting that some think he may be worth it.
Being that it won't happen this year I suppose if he keeps good form the rest of this season and into next he may get a look in.

[Tommyjet]

Jets will sign 19yo left back Ivan Vujica as one of our u20. Australian born at Dinano Zagreb.
He has represented croatia at u19s

One of borat's suggestions.

Good stuff if true.

Also apparently his brother-in-law is poljak.

[Bon]

One of borat's suggestions.

Good stuff if true.

Also apparently his brother-in-law is poljak.

Did a quick youtube check..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7_Di_gUxA

[lil_masi]

Did a quick youtube check..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7_Di_gUxA

Looks like Vujica was Dinamo captain and played against Arsenal, Bayen and Panathanikos youth.

[StannyCFCJET]

Anyone else super keen to see Labi back on the park, Score a winner 90th minute, pull off his top and run towards the squadron??

[Retro Jet]

Anyone else super keen to see Labi back on the park, Score a winner 90th minute, pull off his top and run towards the squadron??

Ah yes...the forgotten one.
Love his ticker.
Happy to see Labi back sometime soon...yes.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ah yes...the forgotten one.
Love his ticker.
Happy to see Labi back sometime soon...yes.

isnt he back to full time training?

[Jeterpool]

Mods, can we get this thread stickied?

[stopper2]

Speaking of LB's, caught the Yoof game against Charlestown yesterday, not sure who the LB is (Adam?) but he looked very good as did the LB playing 22's for the U/18's jets....apparently he is only 15, very smart young player who didn't take a backward step against a typical physical Charlestown side.
These two kids coming through plus the possibility of this Vujica from Dinamo, our LB stocks look very good for the future.

[Frodo]

Looks like Vujica was Dinamo captain and played against Arsenal, Bayen and Panathanikos youth.

I have a feeling he was marking Chris Willock in the Arsenal game, he is a quality youth player in England. Looked like he did ok in the highlights package there.

[StannyCFCJET]

Im sitting here trying to come up with realistic signings for our two wing spots cause we need labi and noddy playing central and im struggling to come up with names anyone thought of anyone

[hawk]

New Jets owner Martin Lee has said he is unlikely to spend more than the $2.60million salary cap this season

hardly surprising or heartening. You'd think we'd make a play for 1 super dude. The other clubs are buying 3.

Not interested enough for me Mr Lee

[StannyCFCJET]

hardly surprising or heartening. You'd think we'd make a play for 1 super dude. The other clubs are buying 3.

Not interested enough for me Mr Lee

just need to use the concessions such as long serving player, get 20 goals between all our strikers and sign some half decent foreigners

[The Camel]

Im sitting here trying to come up with realistic signings for our two wing spots cause we need labi and noddy playing central and im struggling to come up with names anyone thought of anyone

Well they'll be foreigners, and considering Scott went to Denmark and England on his travels I would guess they'd come from comps there.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/rilwan-hassan/leistungsdaten/spieler/140446/plus/1?saison=2015

Likely very few of us will have ever heard of them maybe with a profile this the above fella. But then again I hope the new owner goes and sign Hatem Ben Arfa

[StannyCFCJET]

Well they'll be foreigners, and considering Scott went to Denmark and England on his travels I would guess they'd come from comps there.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/rilwan-hassan/leistungsdaten/spieler/140446/plus/1?saison=2015

Likely very few of us will have ever heard of them maybe with a profile this the above fella. But then again I hope the new owner goes and sign Hatem Ben Arfa

if there as good as nordstrand id be very happy Denmark as always had fast wingers who can cross. As for english wingers no thanks all pace no end product. Now Hatem Ben Arfa is talented sure but isnt he an A grade douchebag?

[The Camel]

if there as good as nordstrand id be very happy Denmark as always had fast wingers who can cross. As for english wingers no thanks all pace no end product. Now Hatem Ben Arfa is talented sure but isnt he an A grade douchebag?

Yeah but he is a class above anyone playing here. Troisi is a free aganet

[StannyCFCJET]

Yeah but he is a class above anyone playing here. Troisi is a free aganet

ive said its heaps of times we should 100% look at Troisi

[hawk]

just need to use the concessions such as long serving player, get 20 goals between all our strikers and sign some half decent foreigners

hope so

[Couscous]

Im sitting here trying to come up with realistic signings for our two wing spots

We have Australia's best winger, Andrew Hoole.

[R Ramjet]

ive heard peter crouch is back on the radar

[The Camel]

Could do worse than Hal Robson-Kanu. Out of contract and killing it for Wales. Play Morten as a 10.

[380]

Remaining spots for Chinese players me thinks.

[leftrightout]

ive heard peter crouch is back on the radar

I was told the same thing but it was not an exactly reliable source... I reckon its some confusion with the rumours from a couple of years ago.

[Poshpom]

Could do worse than Hal Robson-Kanu. Out of contract and killing it for Wales.

Thames Water has a waste treatment plant not far from the Madejski Stadium, Readings home ground. The Reading fans have named it after Robson Kanu.

[leftrightout]

What are your opinions on this Moryiasu that plays for Edgeworth in the NPL?
Obviously he is a visa player and we dont have room for a squaddie in the spots we have left. But maybe for the season after?
I havent actually seen him play but i watch the news each sunday and he seems to score quite a few goals and they are mostly decent strikes. He has obviously come to Australia looking for opportunities.
Is he worth looking at?

Has scored about 5 goals in 2 games since I've asked this question. He is surely going to get picked up by someone!

[MFKS]

Has scored about 5 goals in 2 games since I've asked this question. He is surely going to get picked up by someone!

Watched him yesterday and he got a hatty

2 were pens and the other was a free kick

Yes he hits a very good shot no disputing that.
Yes he is an adequate player at NPL level

But the rest of his game isn't HAL standard at all

Not even close.

For the most part of yesterday's game he was anonymous and when involved in general play he not do that much either

[Grimario]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-former-dinamo-zagreb-dynamo-ivan-vujica-joins-jets/nst6mpvuw8yb1buzhnqdcz0jy

Vujica confirmed.

[Bon]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-former-dinamo-zagreb-dynamo-ivan-vujica-joins-jets/nst6mpvuw8yb1buzhnqdcz0jy

Vujica confirmed.

Great to get a specialist left back in.. Young kid too, looks like he likes to get forward, could be promising..
Looking forward to seeing how he goes..

[Jeterpool]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-former-dinamo-zagreb-dynamo-ivan-vujica-joins-jets/nst6mpvuw8yb1buzhnqdcz0jy

Vujica confirmed.

Good news! On paper, it looks a solid signing. Note it's a 2 year A-League deal, not a Youth deal.

[GazFish35]

I give it 12hrs before the experts of Croatian football start telling us that this is a bad thing that is doomed to fail.

[Grimario]

Great to get a specialist left back in.. Young kid too, looks like he likes to get forward, could be promising..
Looking forward to seeing how he goes..

That video you posted... some crunching sliding tackles in that. He'll either get red carded every third game for those or he'll be sensational.

[Bon]

That video you posted... some crunching sliding tackles in that. He'll either get red carded every third game for those or he'll be sensational.

Yeah! He definitely appears to want to get to the ball first.. haha

[Jeterpool]

That video you posted... some crunching sliding tackles in that. He'll either get red carded every third game for those or he'll be sensational.

Red cards!? He'll fit in nicely in that backline.

[StannyCFCJET]

Red Cards eh? well kanta and boogs will love him then but Seriously if he can be good enough to let cowburn partner Ugar in the midfield then im all for it

[MFKS]

Looks like we have ample coverage to cover the Back 4 for suspension

Think our stocks in this area are quite high

Hopefully Millertime will sign another Defensive Midfielder as I feel this is an area we are drastically short in personnel in

[StannyCFCJET]

Looks like we have ample coverage to cover the Back 4 for suspension

Think our stocks in this area are quite high

Hopefully Millertime will sign another Defensive Midfielder as I feel this is an area we are drastically short in personnel in

Kanta Ugar Piojak Cowburn and Brown isnt that enough?

[Grimario]

Kanta Ugar Piojak Cowburn and Brown isnt that enough?

You forgot to log into Captain Oblivious.

[Wilso8948]

Sarcasm doesn't work well on the internet

[plague]

Hopefully Millertime will sign another Defensive Midfielder as I feel this is an area we are drastically short in personnel in

This is where Steve Lustica would be a perfect pick up.
Hopefully Middleby can nail down his signature without blowing the cap.

[StannyCFCJET]

You forgot to log into Captain Oblivious.

couldnt remember the password

[MFKS]

Kanta Ugar Piojak Cowburn and Brown isnt that enough?

Just feel we are lacking in depth in this area.

If we are parking the bus i feel Millertime could do with another option or two

Also seeing as this is a key area on the park a few $$$ signing a quality player would be of use. Rather than fumbling along with our pop gun midfield and then wondering why our defence is too busy and our attack gets no supply

The reality is our midfield was not good enough last year. There is no evidence to say it is going to be better this year either

[StannyCFCJET]

Just feel we are lacking in depth in this area.

If we are parking the bus i feel Millertime could do with another option or two

Also seeing as this is a key area on the park a few $$$ signing a quality player would be of use. Rather than fumbling along with our pop gun midfield and then wondering why our defence is too busy and our attack gets no supply

The reality is our midfield was not good enough last year. There is no evidence to say it is going to be better this year either

i think cowburn given time will be great in midfield. Agree poijak and kanta rnt good enough buy maybe brown will be class in that position

[Premy]

Have to agree with the member here 2 options come straight to mind, Milligan or Jimmy.

[borat]

We are lacking at DM because we used a visa spot on Poljak, who although competitive, isn't in the same class as some of our opposition.

But there is no way we should waste another visa spot there. Goals was where we lacked last year and our last 2 Visa spots/salary cap should be used on genuine goal threats.

[borat]

Just feel we are lacking in depth in this area.

If we are parking the bus i feel Millertime could do with another option or two

Also seeing as this is a key area on the park a few $$$ signing a quality player would be of use. Rather than fumbling along with our pop gun midfield and then wondering why our defence is too busy and our attack gets no supply

The reality is our midfield was not good enough last year. There is no evidence to say it is going to be better this year either

I would argue that this is why Brown was signed. To bring some classy touches to the middle of the park and keep the ball. Time will tell

[borat]

http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/news-former-dinamo-zagreb-dynamo-ivan-vujica-joins-jets/nst6mpvuw8yb1buzhnqdcz0jy

Vujica confirmed.

Of the Australian players overseas under the age of 20, Vujica was the standout option. It didn't take long for me to scan through the list of candidates and pick Vujica out months back when I was looking at potential options. Should provide genuine competition at LB which is great as the u20's usually are just making up the numbers.

[Jeterpool]

Of the Australian players overseas under the age of 20, Vujica was the standout option. It didn't take long for me to scan through the list of candidates and pick Vujica out months back when I was looking at potential options. Should provide genuine competition at LB which is great as the u20's usually are just making up the numbers.

I get the feeling he will get first crack. It wouldn't surprise me to see him start against Victory.

[MFKS]

I would argue that this is why Brown was signed. To bring some classy touches to the middle of the park and keep the ball. Time will tell
This is precisely why our last two Visa spots should not go to the attack

If Brown is any good let's make this area even stronger

One for an attacker and one to strengthen the spine of the team in the middle of the park which will help us in both attack and defence

Not much use having two good attackers if the midfield is shit and they barely see quality ball and these two have to outscore the opposition as Boogaard and co are getting sent off all the time as the dumb ****s in front offer little

[Jeterpool]

Looking at the type of signings the club are making, I get the feeling the style of play we have will require much more dynamic players. Last year, Leonardo was a traffic cone in defence and Trifunovic wasn't the most mobile forward option.

Stacking the midfield and having a few fullback/wingback options says to me these positions will be doing a lot of running. The depth is required for bench positions and to account for injuries.

At this stage I don't think we will play on the counter because we don't have the natural speed out wide.

[StannyCFCJET]

This is precisely why our last two Visa spots should not go to the attack

If Brown is any good let's make this area even stronger

One for an attacker and one to strengthen the spine of the team in the middle of the park which will help us in both attack and defence

Not much use having two good attackers if the midfield is shit and they barely see quality ball and these two have to outscore the opposition as Boogaard and co are getting sent off all the time as the dumb ****s in front offer little

If brown is class wont he and ugar be good enough in the centre of the park and throw in clut just further forward

[riverboy]

Jets wont be signing any more defensive mids, surely. They arnt playing barcelona or bayern Munich every week. Pick the guys we have, If they dont work out get new guys in at sesons end, simple.

[riverboy]

Jets will sign 2 more attacking players. Japanese guy at edgeworth goes ok, criticism that he doesn't get involved enough is fair. Excellent touch though. I heard Miller looking at a few players formally from English under 21 league. One from chelsea and man city. Another 2 from liverpool, Adam morgan is one name ive heard.

[StannyCFCJET]

loftus cheek on loan make it happen Miller

[stopper2]

Jets will sign 2 more attacking players. Japanese guy at edgeworth goes ok, criticism that he doesn't get involved enough is fair. Excellent touch though. I heard Miller looking at a few players formally from English under 21 league. One from chelsea and man city. Another 2 from liverpool, Adam morgan is one name ive heard.

Big gamble, lets face it, how many English imports have adapted to and been a success in the A League in recent years?...crickets...
Good Spanish players are a dime a dozen and come here, it's obvious they are technically superior...Castro, Isais, Corona for eg. what are English players going to offer better than what we already have here? We already have Brown, should be looking Continental or South American in my opinion for the other 2 visa players.

[Grimario]

Big gamble, lets face it, how many English imports have adapted to and been a success in the A League in recent years?...crickets...
Good Spanish players are a dime a dozen and come here, it's obvious they are technically superior...Castro, Isais, Corona for eg. what are English players going to offer better than what we already have here? We already have Brown, should be looking Continental or South American in my opinion for the other 2 visa players.

Andy Keogh doesn't play cricket.

To be fair, he isn't English but he has come from the English leagues which is more relevant than whether or not he is English.

[white city]

Big gamble, lets face it, how many English imports have adapted to and been a success in the A League in recent years?...crickets...
Good Spanish players are a dime a dozen and come here, it's obvious they are technically superior...Castro, Isais, Corona for eg. what are English players going to offer better than what we already have here? We already have Brown, should be looking Continental or South American in my opinion for the other 2 visa players.

i do agree, the league hasn't had much luck with English imports with a similar mentality to our own. However if anyone is familiar with this player its Miller from his time with Fulham reserves. Its all very much wait and see but i think we need to trust miller on this one.

This is his chance to show his skills of talent spotting and his ability given this is becoming very much his own squad. i think the job he did last year was very good, which makes me eager to see the style and little improvements we can make this year. it will take some time getting us back in the finals mix however a bit of consistency with coaching and recruiting will help

[MFKS]

I wouldn't waste my time on English players

Have a look at their shitful NT

Anyone who can't even get in a side that bad isn't worthy enough to play for us


As Stopper said go for countries like Wales Spain Germany etc Countries that can actually play the ****ing game

[lil_masi]

Apparently Cooper's been told he has no future at the club and not to bother going to training.
I believe Clut,Brown,Nobby,Hoole are in front of him.

[Jeterpool]

Apparently Cooper's been told he has no future at the club and not to bother going to training.
I believe Clut,Brown,Nobby,Hoole are in front of him.

Interesting. I got that sense late last year when he was in and out of the team.

[Wilso8948]

Would anyone take Bulut? Keen on a return to the A league. Personally I would. Love the entertainment. Love shit tats. And kinda rate the bloke.

[GazFish35]

Don't think miller would

[Wilso8948]

Think it could go two ways. Tits up real quick or he takes him under his wing as his problem child and drops some of that superb scotty M vocabulary on him.

[MFKS]

Would anyone take Bulut? Keen on a return to the A league. Personally I would. Love the entertainment. Love shit tats. And kinda rate the bloke.
I would take him in a heart beat. The bloke is a grade A wanker.

If he played for us he would be our wanker and would win the fans over in no time with his never quit attitude

[The Postman]

1.
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
3. Jason Hoffman - 17/18
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 16/17
6.
7.
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
9.
10.
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
13.
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15.
16. Steven Ugarković - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
18.
19. Morten Nordstrand - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21.
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
23.

Nick Cowburn - 17/18
Devante Clut - 17/18
Wayne Brown - 17/18
Daniel Alessi - 17/18
Andrew Hoole - 16/17
Jack Duncan - 17/18
Ivan Vujica -17/18

1 more u/20 + 2 others (ST and another winger)

[StannyCFCJET]

1.
2. Daniel Mullen - 16/17
3. Jason Hoffman - 17/18
4. Nigel Boogaard - 17/18
5. Ben Kantarovski - 16/17
6.
7.
8. Mateo Poljak - 16/17
9.
10.
11. Labinot Halti - 16/17
12. Andy Brennan - 16/17
13.
14. Mitch Cooper - 16/17
15.
16. Steven Ugarković - 16/17
17. Radan Pavicevic - 16/17
18.
19. Morten Nordstrand - 16/17
20. Ben Kennedy - 16/17
21.
22. Lachlan Jackson - 16/17
23.

Nick Cowburn - 17/18
Devante Clut - 17/18
Wayne Brown - 17/18
Daniel Alessi - 17/18
Andrew Hoole - 16/17
Jack Duncan - 17/18
Ivan Vujica -17/18

1 more u/20 + 2 others (ST and another winger)

we need two wingers off starting class and another striker as good as or better then nordstrand IMO

[Grimario]

Joice u20 and two foreign wingers?

[lil_masi]

Joice u20 and two foreign wingers?

Yeah Joice would be one.
1 foreign outright winger
1 foreign winger/striker.

If we get rid of Cooper then we'd have another spot open. We had an extra 90k from Carney on top of the cap, can't we use this to pay someone out?

[Jeterpool]

Yeah Joice would be one.
1 foreign outright winger
1 foreign winger/striker.

If we get rid of Cooper then we'd have another spot open. We had an extra 90k from Carney on top of the cap, can't we use this to pay someone out?

Contract terminations are no longer counted in the cap. I remember reading that as a change last year.

[RAM]

I would take him in a heart beat. The bloke is a grade A wanker.

If he played for us he would be our wanker and would win the fans over in no time with his never quit attitude

Turkish Matt Simon. Limited ability, but plenty of workrate.

[pv4]

Turkish Matt Simon. Limited ability, but plenty of workrate.

I find I disagree with basically all your opinions

[lquiquer]

I'm all for Bulut.... He only wants to play Striker and we need one
He'll bring "passion" and "emotion" to the club and we also need more of that

[MFKS]

Contract terminations are no longer counted in the cap. I remember reading that as a change last year.

So explain to me how Brennan Pavicevic and BK haven't been released yet??

[Jeterpool]

So explain to me how Brennan Pavicevic and BK haven't been released yet??

I can try and assume. The club see value in the player and want to retain them, they haven't been approached by a team wanting to sign them and hence the conversation hasn't occurred or the Jets want rid but the player wants to stay, hence the termination isn't mutual (this word is probably missing from my original post).

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

Would anyone take Bulut? Keen on a return to the A league. Personally I would. Love the entertainment. Love shit tats. And kinda rate the bloke.

100%.Face tats rock.

[borat]

I can try and assume. The club see value in the player and want to retain them, they haven't been approached by a team wanting to sign them and hence the conversation hasn't occurred or the Jets want rid but the player wants to stay, hence the termination isn't mutual (this word is probably missing from my original post).

Here is another rationale, we have not had the money for these payouts. Just because the payout isn't included in the cap does not mean that we have the cash to do this. Under FFA control we ran to a tight player budget which ruled out using any salary cap concessions. So paying out players obviously was not an option.

Ledman has opened the purse strings a little but we still run under a player budget. Yes we could pay out these players but what exactly would that achieve. Both Pav and Brennan would be min wage, so assuming we are spending up to the cap limit this year (addition of Hoole and Duncan would indicate that) could only be replaced by min wage players. Plus the payout itself eats into our player budget meaning less can be spent overall.

I would however like to see one or both of the remaining Visa players be signed as marquees, in name only, so that should players, such as Brennan, leave mid season on their own accord we have some flexibility under the cap.

[borat]

Contract terminations are no longer counted in the cap. I remember reading that as a change last year.

Having looked at this and tried to find some information, I don't necessarily believe this is accurate. I remember the FFA brought some flexibility to the system, something like a contract termination payment (i.e. payout of a contract) could be spread out over the following 2 years or that it could be brought forward to the current salary cap year (i.e. next years salary included in this years etc). I could be wrong and happy to be corrected, but if it were the case then SFC would have cut half their contracted players this year (particularly Smeltz).

[Jeterpool]

Having looked at this and tried to find some information, I don't necessarily believe this is accurate. I remember the FFA brought some flexibility to the system, something like a contract termination payment (i.e. payout of a contract) could be spread out over the following 2 years or that it could be brought forward to the current salary cap year (i.e. next years salary included in this years etc). I could be wrong and happy to be corrected, but if it were the case then SFC would have cut half their contracted players this year (particularly Smeltz).

I just did too. I found clauses in the FFA Registration Regulations, but nothing on the salary cap.

[GazFish35]

Hmmm

Find a club willing to take on someone not good enough for our squad AND willing to pay them similar cash, or more????
Find replacements who would improve the squad, and be willing to sign on similar wages to the lesser players we are moving on????

Pav and Brennan would know where they stand, and that they're on a good thing at the moment.

So too with BK, but not because of his ability, if his wage rumours are true it's simply because he's being paid overs. I think he'd get a gig elsewhere, but not on the money he's apparently on..... That and I reckon they see him as a legitimate starting option this season.

It's not poor management of the current administration. It's still a hangover from poor management decisions made previously.

[furns]

I just did too. I found clauses in the FFA Registration Regulations, but nothing on the salary cap.
Sounds like a good question for our coach or CEO :thumbsup:

[RAM]

I find I disagree with basically all your opinions

I must be doing something right.

[ForeverRed]

Andrew nabbout trialling with jets

[Jeterpool]

Andrew nabbout trialling with jets

Again!?

I wonder if he'd come in under the "non-professional" or AKA the NPL player exemption?

[The Postman]

Would be wasting a spot if he signs without someone leaving, still need 1 more u/20 and hopefully the last 2 spots would go to quality attacking players.

[leftrightout]

Would be wasting a spot if he signs w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶v̶i̶n̶g̶.

Fixed

[Bon]

Would be wasting a spot if he signs without someone leaving, still need 1 more u/20 and hopefully the last 2 spots would go to quality attacking players.

I agree..
Could he potentially be taking Mitch Coopers spot, if he is apparently on the outer??

[OmeletteDuFromage]

Again!?

I wonder if he'd come in under the "non-professional" or AKA the NPL player exemption?

Doesnt count as a mature age rookie, has to of not played in the A-League in the past 18 months (Been about 14 months), and also must of most recently played in Australia (Hes playing in Malaysia atm)

[Couscous]

andrew nabbout trialling with jets

ffs

[ForeverRed]

Doesnt count as a mature age rookie, has to of not played in the A-League in the past 18 months (Been about 14 months), and also must of most recently played in Australia (Hes playing in Malaysia atm)
He was cut along with Joel chianese to make way for Enrique

[380]

I would have Chianese over Nabbout. Chianese can use both feet quite capably.

[MFKS]

Andrew nabbout trialling with jets

Surprised he would want to play with us.

Remember after an NYL game some dickhead in the crowd had something to say to him and the nature of it was disparaging to his ethnic back ground.

Blew up deluxe

[borat]

Mckinna in the Herald on record we are signing 2 Visas, but one is now going to be a development player from China. Which will smooth the way for a major sponsor.

Not sure how happy I am but I guess the long term viability of the club comes first. Would be happy if the sponsorship paid the way for a high profile guest player.

This means the only way Nabbout could be signed is if someone leaves.

[leftrightout]

Mckinna in the Herald on record we are signing 2 Visas, but one is now going to be a development player from China. Which will smooth the way for a major sponsor.

Not sure how happy I am but I guess the long term viability of the club comes first. Would be happy if the sponsorship paid the way for a high profile guest player.

This means the only way Nabbout could be signed is if someone leaves.

I guess it depends what is considered a "development player" Song for example was great for us, he was here at a youngish age to develop his game to move to Europe. There are plenty of great 20 - 21 year olds we could sign from Asia.
And if it means we have more money to put towards the other Visa player, it might not be a terrible thing!

[Jetmaster]

Expect a few whingers but we had to expect this in return for financial stability.

[leftrightout]

Expect a few whingers but we had to expect this in return for financial stability.

I have always been surprised at the lack of Asian players in our league.

[lquiquer]

Not sure young Chinese players are as technically advanced as are young koreans or young Japaneses...

[Jeterpool]

Like any player in this squad, they won't be signed to a long term contract. I'd suggest given the importance on a Visa player they will be signed for 1 year.

If it's for two and they turn out to be a great prospect we would get a transfer fee for them, just like any player.

And realistically, if they didn't work out it wouldn't be any different to many of the league's Visa spots. For example, how often did the Roar see Polenz and Solórzano last year? Hughes for City? Rodriguez for Nix? faty for Sydney?

We normally have a 4 out of 5 success rate.

A couple of key quotes from the article:


“He needs to be able to play a part in the team this year,” McKinna said. “There is no good just signing someone for the sake of it. He has to be good enough to compete for a position.”

McKinna said they have had talks with clubs about potential loan deals and were most likely to target players who play in wide areas.

“That would be the easiest transition,” McKinna said.

McKinna said if the Jets can find the right player in China, it would free up more funds for Miller to spend on the other import.

[MFKS]

Expect a few whingers but we had to expect this in return for financial stability.

Stability or being sold down the river??

If the bloke is good enough no one will give a **** where he is from

If he is worse than we have and worse than the EJ program can provide them Ledman deserves all the shit that will come his way for it

[Grimario]

Stability or being sold down the river??

If the bloke is good enough no one will give a **** where he is from

If he is worse than we have and worse than the EJ program can provide them Ledman deserves all the shit that will come his way for it

Whoever it is would still be required to get a work visa, no? It's not like we can just go "here is Chinese Bloke, right winger with no legs or arms" and he will get a clearance, right?

[Tommyjet]

Im ok with it as long as it means the striker we sign up as the other visa is a step up to what we are used to.
Lets hope for a song type acquisition.

[borat]

Not sure young Chinese players are as technically advanced as are young koreans or young Japaneses...

This

Combine that with a local league that drastically overpays players. I have real doubts about this as its at odds with Lee's desire to make top 3. Your Visa players are what makes or breaks your squad. And as we know our squad is not up to scratch with the rest of the league. We were relying on these Visa Players to lift the quality of the playing group and in my opinion we don't have the room for a development Visa player.

Remember Miller left these 2 positions aside until the playing budget was known. I doubt he expected to effectively lose one to a development player.

Lee should offset signing the development player by using some of this sponsorship to secure a year long guest player who can be an additional Visa player. Then everyone wins.

[borat]

Like any player in this squad, they won't be signed to a long term contract. I'd suggest given the importance on a Visa player they will be signed for 1 year.

If it's for two and they turn out to be a great prospect we would get a transfer fee for them, just like any player.

And realistically, if they didn't work out it wouldn't be any different to many of the league's Visa spots. For example, how often did the Roar see Polenz and Solórzano last year? Hughes for City? Rodriguez for Nix? faty for Sydney?

We normally have a 4 out of 5 success rate.

A couple of key quotes from the article:

Those quotes ring alarm bells to me. These last two positions needed to not just compete for a position, they needed to be our best players for us to be truly competitive.

[plague]

Jets are garbage.
Anything would be an upgrade at this point.

[stopper2]

This

Combine that with a local league that drastically overpays players. I have real doubts about this as its at odds with Lee's desire to make top 3. Your Visa players are what makes or breaks your squad. And as we know our squad is not up to scratch with the rest of the league. We were relying on these Visa Players to lift the quality of the playing group and in my opinion we don't have the room for a development Visa player.

Remember Miller left these 2 positions aside until the playing budget was known. I doubt he expected to effectively lose one to a development player.

Lee should offset signing the development player by using some of this sponsorship to secure a year long guest player who can be an additional Visa player. Then everyone wins.

I was going to have my 2 bobs worth but pretty much I am thinking along the same lines as Borat here.
If he is a gun, happy days but if he is a dud it is not going to go down good at all as a PR exercise.
A-League squads are small and really there is noe space for a "development player" whether he is from Charlestown, China or wherever....

[Hunter403]

Developmental player identified:
Ban Wun Yin.
From the Chinese second division. Plays along side Tak Ng Pis.

[GazFish35]

Thought it might be Ni Shin-to.

No issue with a token squaddie to get shirt sales and sponsorship revenue from OS. Not like the whole plastic league isn't already the epitome of modern Football. It's the logical next step.
Chinese kid who's dad does business with ledman, dad's business throws a gazillion dollars at the club to get his kid a gig. Club sells a millions shirts in China and uses the gazillion to sign Cahill. Club then also sells a gazillion Cahill shirts.

This game is now all absolutely it money, this deal will help us make money.

We only blow up if the money is then only returned to Ledmans pockets not the club future development.

We've been wanting some shrewd business to be done in our favour.... Best we enjoy the ride!

[Grimario]

Don't Ledman have strategic ties to the CFA?

It won't be a token player, I fully expect it to be someone that the CFA has high hopes of developing into a proper star. Similar to how Ki Sung-yueng grew up in Brisbane... Newy might be home to some bloke who goes on to bigger and better things.


(dreaming)

[Couscous]

Not sure young Chinese players are as technically advanced as are young koreans or young Japaneses...

Reported for racism.

[borat]

Don't Ledman have strategic ties to the CFA?

It won't be a token player, I fully expect it to be someone that the CFA has high hopes of developing into a proper star. Similar to how Ki Sung-yueng grew up in Brisbane... Newy might be home to some bloke who goes on to bigger and better things.


(dreaming)

The words "developmental" and "compete" don't exactly inspire you with confidence that we are signing a player who is ready to perform as the proven Visa signing we need. That and China aren't renowned for producing technically gifted players.

I get why we are doing this and what the advantages are, but just sign a guest so the team doesn't suffer as a result because we own't be making the top 6 with a passenger Visa signing

[Grimario]

The words "developmental" and "compete" don't exactly inspire you with confidence that we are signing a player who is ready to perform as the proven Visa signing we need. That and China aren't renowned for producing technically gifted players.

I get why we are doing this and what the advantages are, but just sign a guest so the team doesn't suffer as a result because we own't be making the top 6 with a passenger Visa signing

Have you seen some of the absolute plonkers playing for us?

[stopper2]

Thought it might be Ni Shin-to.

No issue with a token squaddie to get shirt sales and sponsorship revenue from OS. Not like the whole plastic league isn't already the epitome of modern Football. It's the logical next step.
Chinese kid who's dad does business with ledman, dad's business throws a gazillion dollars at the club to get his kid a gig. Club sells a millions shirts in China and uses the gazillion to sign Cahill. Club then also sells a gazillion Cahill shirts.

This game is now all absolutely it money, this deal will help us make money.

We only blow up if the money is then only returned to Ledmans pockets not the club future development.

We've been wanting some shrewd business to be done in our favour.... Best we enjoy the ride!

So there is a "big picture" or a long-term plan to the "development" player? LOL

[GazFish35]

I reckon.
And I reckons its not at all dependent on how good the player is.
Business is business.

While it probably doesn't involve gazillions or Cahill it will involve building cash flow from China.

Lee wants a presence in the ACL. So will sponsors. The aleague is a cheaper way to get there than through China.

[MFKS]

I reckon.
And I reckons its not at all dependent on how good the player is.
Business is business.

While it probably doesn't involve gazillions or Cahill it will involve building cash flow from China.

Lee wants a presence in the ACL. So will sponsors. The aleague is a cheaper way to get there than through China.
If wants bang for his buck then he be better off getting us a Heskey or an ADP or a Dwight Yorke etc
Some ****er that people in this country have heard of and some ****er people in China have heard of

What's the point of bringing in some Chinese Yoof player that no **** in China has heard of either??

No value in that unless he signs us the 17 year old Chinese Lionel Messi of the future. Who lets face it ain't coming to play in this country if he is that good

[lquiquer]

Maybe we should get a young chinese keeper, we can tell him which way to dive each time Boogard concede a penalty

[ForeverRed]

Reft, go reft

[OmeletteDuFromage]

The words "developmental" and "compete" don't exactly inspire you with confidence that we are signing a player who is ready to perform as the proven Visa signing we need. That and China aren't renowned for producing technically gifted players.

I get why we are doing this and what the advantages are, but just sign a guest so the team doesn't suffer as a result because we own't be making the top 6 with a passenger Visa signing

Id call Alivodic a passenger. Only way to describe what the **** i saw from him last season.

[GazFish35]

If wants bang for his buck then he be better off getting us a Heskey or an ADP or a Dwight Yorke etc
Some ****er that people in this country have heard of and some ****er people in China have heard of

What's the point of bringing in some Chinese Yoof player that no **** in China has heard of either??

No value in that unless he signs us the 17 year old Chinese Lionel Messi of the future. Who lets face it ain't coming to play in this country if he is that good

Chinese kid costs 58K, you sell 58K shirts.
ADP (type) costs 580K you still only sell 58K shirts.

Chinese player "might" be "bought" back by a Chinese club for 58K and you've profited by selling 58K shirts.

ADP (type) moves to Chinese club on free. You make no profit.

Also Chinese kid attracts Chinese sponsors.


The short answer - it's less risky trying a no name Chinese kid than trying to sign Jamie Vardy.

[plague]

Reft, go reft

#inb4jilljoys
Funny.

[MFKS]

Chinese kid costs 58K, you sell 58K shirts.
ADP (type) costs 580K you still only sell 58K shirts.

Chinese player "might" be "bought" back by a Chinese club for 58K and you've profited by selling 58K shirts.

ADP (type) moves to Chinese club on free. You make no profit.

Also Chinese kid attracts Chinese sponsors.


The short answer - it's less risky trying a no name Chinese kid than trying to sign Jamie Vardy.
But this Chinese kid your talking about. Is he gonna sell shirts when in China??

Is he gonna have enough of a profile in China that people will follow his exploits in Newy??

I am backing no

If he cracks it a big Euro Club then yes.

Asians are prone to jumping on the bandwagon of successful teams and big name players

Go there and they all wearing Man U Chelsea Barca shirts

They barely follow the local stuff and are Euro snobs of the highest order

[GazFish35]

fait point, take shirt sales out of it and just keep the sponsorships and it's still a less risky deal.

[The Dunster]

But this Chinese kid your talking about. Is he gonna sell shirts when in China??

Is he gonna have enough of a profile in China that people will follow his exploits in Newy??

I am backing no

If he cracks it a big Euro Club then yes.

Asians are prone to jumping on the bandwagon of successful teams and big name players

Go there and they all wearing Man U Chelsea Barca shirts

They barely follow the local stuff and are Euro snobs of the highest order

I find the high quality of the members posts in recent times very alarming.